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Re: Help! My newsreader's downloading everything on lugnet!
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Date: 
Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:51:31 GMT
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Tony Priestman <Tony@you-rang.demon.co.uk> wrote:
NEWNEWS lugnet.loc.uk 000101 161723 GMT
to lugnet, which doesn't.
I don't know what to do about this. Advice?

Looks like your newsreader (and mine) is actually correct. From RFC 977:


   NEWGROUPS date time [GMT] [<distributions>]

   A list of newsgroups created since <date and time> will be listed in
   the same format as the LIST command.

   The date is sent as 6 digits in the format YYMMDD, where YY is the
   last two digits of the year, MM is the two digits of the month (with
   leading zero, if appropriate), and DD is the day of the month (with
   leading zero, if appropriate).  The closest century is assumed as
   part of the year (i.e., 86 specifies 1986, 30 specifies 2030, 99 is
   1999, 00 is 2000).

and

   NEWNEWS newsgroups date time [GMT] [<distribution>]

   [snip]

   Date and time are in the same format as the NEWGROUPS command.


RFC 2626 mentions that the two-digit year specified in 977 is a problem, and
notes that "A working group has been formed to update the network news
protocols in general, and addressing this problem is on their list of work
items." Which doesn't help much. Anyone have a pointer to anything newer?

In the meantime, it looks like LUGnet (and BU's news server) are actually
acting incorrectly, since the RFC _does_ specify the assumption to be made.
Not a real solution, of course....

What _should_ my newsreader be giving? An 8-digit year? Or 7?

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
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  Y2K problem with lugnet! (was Re: Help! My newsreader's downloading everything on lugnet!)
 
(...) Todd, I think this is an actual problem: jadzia:~$ telnet lugnet.com nntp Trying 209.68.63.236... Connected to lugnet.com. Escape character is '^]'. 200 lugnet.com NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.12.2 (9 Jan 1996) ready at Sat J 1 16:22:58 2000 (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: Help! My newsreader's downloading everything on lugnet!
 
(...) Sussed it. My newsreader is sending: NEWNEWS rec.toys.lego 000101 160804 GMT to the Demon newsserver, which recognises it as (20)000101 and NEWNEWS lugnet.loc.uk 000101 161723 GMT to lugnet, which doesn't. I don't know what to do about this. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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