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Re: markup syntax for member pages
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Date: 
Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:24:32 GMT
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Thanks Todd for your concise explanation.  It indeed makes sense.  It did
not occur to me that folks would use other that the most *simple* html tags.
I guess that is why I am not a sysadmin type guy!

Keep up the great work!

John Matthews


Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:FE6BAI.xL@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.admin.general, John Matthews writes:
> > I'm no genius and I learned the most basic HTML 1.0 in about 15 seconds.
> > I think it is very easy to understand and completely intuitive. Why • would
> > I want to learn another markup language?  A proprietary one at that...
> 
> If HTML were chosen, then not only would it require a full-blown HTML • parser/
> validator to prevent garbage like
> 
>   <TABLE BORDER=8 CELLPADDING=10 BGCOLOR="#FF0000"><TR><TD>
>     <FONT COLOR="#00FF00" SIZE="+4"><B>
>       <BLINK>THIS IS MY <BIG>COOL</BIG> PAGE!!!</BLINK>
>     </B></FONT>
>   </TD></TR></TABLE>
> 
> from popping up everwhere, but there'd be no end to explaining to people
> why only an extremely selective subset of HTML was honored (the rest being
> discarded).
> 
> And not only that, but sometimes even a simple page of HTML isn't always
> very easy to understand, even by an experienced human -- it's too easy for
> people to make trivial mistakes like
> 
>    <B>blah blah blah<B>                Missing "/"
> 
>    <UL><LI>foo<LI>foo<LI>foo</OL>      Mismatched UL/OL
> 
>    The LEGO&reg Group                  Missing ";"
> 
>    <!-- blah -- blah -->               Comment ends at "--", not at "-->"
> 
> and wonder why things aren't displaying right.  Guess who they complain to
> if it doesn't appear how they thought it would?  :)
> 
> Even preventing JavaScript from being embedded in HTML comments is
> unfortunately not a trivial parsing task.  There are probably libraries • out
> there for helping with that, but that's a band-aid on top of unnecessary
> overkill.
> 
> 
> > Oh well, I suppose I will have to invest another 15-20 seconds of my • life
> > learning how to make my LUGNET page look spiffy ;)
> 
> Well, it's not really geared toward spiffiness.  Boldface and italics and
> headers are functional tools to help convey semantic meaning in the text.
> So it's actually geared toward non-spiffiness, or, rather, simply toward
> nurturing the efficient expression and exchange of useful information. • And
> raw HTML is just a drag (as in slowing) in that regard.  Fortunately, • there
> are places like geocities where people can put up a full-HTML page if they
> want glitz and spiffiness.
> 
> Hope that makes sense!
> --Todd



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(...) If HTML were chosen, then not only would it require a full-blown HTML parser/ validator to prevent garbage like <TABLE BORDER=8 CELLPADDING=10 BGCOLOR="#FF0000"><TR><TD> <FONT COLOR="#00FF00" SIZE="+4"><B> <BLINK>THIS IS MY <BIG>COOL</BIG> (...) (27 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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