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Re: Context: LUGNET is not a democracy
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ross Crawford wrote:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
> > The language regarding unanimous admin
> > consensus to remove another admin is a safety valve more than anything else,
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> I would be interested to hear the rationale behind that statement, specifically
> why it is more of a safety valve than majority decision. The reason I ask is
> that I, as a non-admin, see it as *removing* a safety valve.
The admin team has worked on a consensus basis, and the theory (OK, my theory)
was that if a fellow admin was problematic enough to need to be removed, they
would be the ones that would need to agree about it. A majority vote system
might be good for larger groups, but such a small group should be expected to
come to consensus on this. I termed it a safety valve because there needs to be
at least one additional check in place in addition to the site owners.
To answer the inevitable question of "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" I would say
"the site owners".
Kelly McKiernan
LUGNET Administrator
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Message has 1 Reply: ![](/news/x.gif) | | Re: Context: LUGNET is not a democracy
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| (...) I assume you mean they, the (other) admins? (...) Well maybe, but I'm not sure "should be expected to come to consensus" is very useful here. What if a majority do agree that an admin is a problem, but they can't all come to a consensus? At (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) I would be interested to hear the rationale behind that statement, specifically why it is more of a safety valve than majority decision. The reason I ask is that I, as a non-admin, see it as *removing* a safety valve. ROSCO (19 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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