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(...) That's not accurate. What IS accurate is that when I discovered there was a problem, I talked to my support and based on what they told me then, I said to you that the problem was at your end. Later on, you insinuated that I was deliberately (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't think that looking at only priveledges is a more accurate way to look at these issues. I think you only address part of the issue. The P&P and ToU already define everything as priveledges, but this means they can be taken away. Rights (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes, I know this, *and* I knew it that time that Larry tried to make it look like my fault by saying the problem was on my end. Have to admit, he's good at spin. (...) I don't won't accept any unofficial email warnings. Otherwise the emails (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's mostly accurate, I would add "or one or more site owner(s) remove a staff member from their position." The reason it's stated in such a way stems from the current structure of LUGNET ownership... Todd and Suzanne are the owners of (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I missed the significance of this on the first reading, but it got me thinking: Eventually, I assume the LUGNET Transition Team is going to hand over control to some other governing body once it gets sorted what the future for LUGNET is going (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I think it is outrageous to completely ignore someone's input because you don't like them. Larry has told me that I am a "button pusher" and that my "opinion carries less and less weight with [him] over time" Disagree with the admins once, and (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !
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(...) Just to let you know, this feeling is not limited to NELUG. In fact it is an international concern. If Larry were not an admin I wouldn't care, but he *is* and admin and therefore it affects LUGNET significantly. Unfortunatly there is no (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !
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I have been around LUGNET since the beginning. I don't really post much, hell, I don't think I've posted in over a year. But I do have an opinion on this subject..and here it is (probably ban worthy...but who cares, all the infighting here makes it (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !!
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(...) Ok - but that doesn't change my point. It's out of YOUR control if Yahoo accepts messages from Larry's server. You'd have no way of knowing if it does or doesn't until you actually are sent one. On the other hand, you KNOW that mail from (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) For the sake of accuracy, the server at Larry's end was working fine. Due to address similarities to popular SPAMmer addresses, Yahoo dropped the email. This is accruate, right Larry? Kevin (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) While using a "From: ...@lugnet.com" address can help with spam filter issues, I don't think it would have helped in this case, since the problem sounds like it was an actual inability of Larry's mail server to deliver mail to Kevin's. Setting (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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No offense taken, Lenny. My day job for the last seven years has been "administering" an e-commerce web site that encompasses several hundred different organizations and handles anywhere from 5 to 7 billion US dollars in transactions each year. I (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes if it's already set up, I would suggest that it be required. Then you could even have something in the posting info somewhere (or the ToU? Both?) saying "All official Lugnet emails will come from a @lugnet.com address, so we advise you to (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's definitely the preferred method; in fact, I had some problems sending and receiving using my LUGNET admin email address, but those have been straightened out. While it's preferred, I don't believe that it's absolutely required, but (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well to be pedantic, there were 2 statements in your sentence, Kevin's response could have been referring to either (or both). (...) Which brings up another point - do official mails come from the @lugnet.com addresses, or from your private (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Certainly I think they should look at it. In fact I would be surprised if they haven't already. (...) I certainly believe anything that isn't posted here or pertaining to Lugnet business should not be actionable here. But I haven't yet formed (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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I've been accused of taking this quote out of context. LUGNET is not a democracy. Here are all the contexts I found this quote used. Short of providing the entire text, I'll provide reasonable context. If more context is desired, I'll be happy to (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !
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(...) The question was not directed at me, but I can give *my* perception of the situation. "No-one bothered to comment in public on the offense" This means that other people, reading just the groups, not having insight into private e-mails, other (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, to clarify, in your opinion, are you saying this particular clause of the ToU should not be enforced at all? Or just not in this particular case with respect to this particular post? If not at all, why not? It's really a hot button with (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) so why not here??? (...) can this be discussed now and here? please. (...) YOU guys are/were heavy handed. IMO. The other approach is the one that tony so eloquently described. LESS is more. That's a serious question. It's easy to say that the (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !
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