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Re: (Non-LEGO) Recommendation
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Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:12:38 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Jeff Johnston writes:
> Mr L F Braun wrote:
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> > In lugnet.pirates, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > > Also, if any of you get the chance to visit the UK, do try to make it to
> > > the National
> > > Maritime Museum in Greenwich. It's a very short train ride from central
> > > London
> > > and is well worth it. The _Cutty Sark_, last of the great tea clippers,
> > > is also on
> > > display nearby.
> >
> > It's a ship in fine shape--I only saw it at night, but it's
> > a very pleasant sight in the moonlight.
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> The inside has been modified, I fear, to be a museum - there's no way it'll
> ever sail again, which is a pity. There's a nice display of figureheads
> from
> various ships, though.
I'll have to see it--real pity about the interior being altered,
though I guess I can't blame them--the tea clippers weren't exactly
passenger liners.
> > I didn't realise they'd dragged the whole carcass (such as it was,
> > which wasn't much) of the _Mary Rose_ out of its grave! Amazing.
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> It was quite impressive - and actually, they pulled up almost half the ship!
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> For those who don't follow current events, the _Mary Rose_ was
> commissioned by Henry VIII as a warship, but sank in a storm - somewhere
> in the Channel I believe. Half the ship (the port side, if I remember
> right)
> was buried in the silt of the seabed, which preserved the timbers and even
> some of the cargo. (The unstrung longbows they found encased in wax
> were still in firing condition!)
Heavens! I didn't realise *that* either. All i knew is that
the ship and some remnant of its cargo had been found, nothing
more...now I'll ask for decent book recommendations on that!
(Do you know if one's been published?)
> Divers found it, and the hull remnant was raised - it's now in a gigantic
> hall where they are constantly spraying it with a preservative solution that
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> is designed to seep into the wood and force the water out - if they just
> left
> it as it was, it would have disintegrated.
Yep, this is exactly the procedure that was really pioneered
with _Wasa_ (or Vasa, if you want the anglicised version). My
gf saw the Wasa museum while in Stockholm, and she really liked
it--and she's not much one for ships ("boats", if that gives you
a clue as to how un-nautical she is). But the theory is sound,
so it's not too much of a shock they decided to repeat it for
the remnants of the _Mary Rose_.
> > There's a replica of the _Golden Hinde_ moored in Southwark, by the
> > way,
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> Durn. Wish I had known that - oh well, I think the wife was about sailed
> out by the end of the Greenwich trip...
I'm not sure it's still there. Like a lot of replicas (for example,
the _Endeavour_ replica, and the _Mayflower_ and _Half Moon_ replicas)
it moves around. I found it entirely by accident, walking along the
riverline in Southwark (something of a trick because a lot of the
waterfront is behind buildings or otherwise obstructed). Suddenly
I rounded a corner near Southwark Cathedral and *bam* there it was.
It's a tiny thing, too! I'd say it's about the size of a caravan
(mobile home for the North Americans). Stunning that such a little
ship--the dimensions are right even if the exact plan of Drake's
ship can never be known--not only overhauled and captured galleons,
but sailed around the world packed with gold and spices.
best
Lindsay
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| Well, I missed the start of this thread, and this is mostly an echo of what other people are saying.... A few years back I and Jo got to spend the day in Mystic Seaport. very cool town and very nautical flavor. We also went to Groton but just drove (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.pirates)
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| Mr L F Braun wrote in message ... (...) OK, found my class notes from an SCA class on the Mary Rose last year... Built about 1511, 32m long (110 feet), 13m from keel to top of stern castle, refitted in 1527, laid up until another refit in 1536. Sank (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.pirates)
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| (...) . (...) At the Corpus Christ, TX Natural History Museum, replicas of the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria are being built by craftsmen using, IIRC, essentially the same building techniques as were employed on the originals. It is a fascinating (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.pirates)
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| (...) The inside has been modified, I fear, to be a museum - there's no way it'll ever sail again, which is a pity. There's a nice display of figureheads from various ships, though. (...) It was quite impressive - and actually, they pulled up almost (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.pirates)
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