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Whew, I'm in Lego Recovery after Brick Fest!
I just wanted to say a few things about this very important issue.
Firstly, I don't know where the heck Matt Gerber is, but I hope he is ok and I
hope nothing ill happened to him.
Secondly, The PBX event is about good people trying to do something about a
stagnant situation. Kudos to them.
As for my boys in So Cal. They have every right to be concerned.
I suppose if they felt like they would have been consulted first, things may not
have gone the way of shock.
Dave, Adrian, Scott et als, are great people. I know if they would have had the
chance to organize it themselves they could do so. Perhaps the So Cal Lugs gave
Matt the benifet of the doubt and were just waiting to hear from him any day
now.
Adrian made a good point. The BW events were short on Local Lug Planning.
This was strange but a credit to Matt for trying to move forward.
I would like to see the BW event to always be held at Legoland. It makes sense
to have it there.
Its a mecca and a compliment to the TLC's goal of greater relationships between
fans.
As for roving cons, I understand the reasons, but take into consideration that
if folks like Mark P. Adrian E. and Dave J. just were given a chance, they could
put on a con each year and happily so. They just didn't know that they should.
I say keep the event at Legoland. Allow others to take over the duty of
organizing the event just as Matt Gerber wanted.
He wanted others to run the next BW event the next time around. He said that all
along. If others didn't realize it was time to step up, now is the time.
O better yet next year.
I'm sorry that he is MIA, and don't let his situation ruin this for you. Nor let
it interfere or cause you not to come or support the North West Brick Con.
Please!
Still those who have been caught by surprise, I completely understand.
I also understand that the folks holding the PBX event are just trying to do
something good, and that event space they scored is something to be considered.
While it is true that two cons one state away from each other is of concern.
Man, that convention space is sweet.
I think every event should be called Brick Fest. Then sling the name of the city
next to it. Brick Fest, Brick Fest LLC, and let the NWBC is cool too.
But really consider this, Allow the Portland event to proceed with your
blessings. Then SanLUG, Lugola etc... hold the event next year and forever after
at Legoland, where it should be.
The idea of a roving con to avoid burnout only came about because no one was
certain Matt would continue, and there was no confidence of a core group of So
Cal Lugs dedicating themselves to run an Event year after year.
I say allow the PBX event to happen this year in lew of the road bumps, then
take it back and keep it at Legoland.
I say this! So Cal Lugs, this is your chance to rise to the occassion.
Please give the portland event your blessing and support, then swing into action
and organize an event at Legoland. If you show organization and dedication, I'm
sure the folks at Legoland would embrace us.
Just because some weird things happened with Matt, don't let this go down the
drain, jump on this opportunity to bring a fest back to Legoland and ask
permission to use the Brick Fest name, of ask Matt for the name or make a new
one, what the heck else can we do, we got to start again, this time it will be
done for good so it will continue, lets unify the fan conventions so they will
be widely known. Name recognition, let's all celebrate the Brick, lets do it
under the name Brick Fest, lets do something!
Hey check this out, I want the So Cal guys to meet up and organize an event at
Legoland for next year and forever after. Roving Cons idea was just beacuse no
one wanted to shoulder the burden. Take on the burden and keep it at Legoland.
Let the Portland event happen in the interim and bring the event back to
Legoland next year.
What's wrong with the Windmill? I heard they didn't get paid.
I say so what, call them guys up and explain your a different and new committee.
Don't let a past debt interfere with your desire to have a fest at Legoland. By
rights we can just like anyone, rent the Windmill, don't mention Matt or just
explain the difference. Our money is good.
It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.
This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope. Either way its just a thought no need
to jump in and pick it apart people.
I know I am probably missing alot here, but I want this all to be worked out,
and please for the love of the brick, allow the Portland event to occur with
blessings, take back the event to Legoland next year, come to the NorthWest
Brick Con - I'm driving there from New Jersey! Come on!
You guys in So Cal have my love and respect, you know that, the folks who have
stepped up, allow the folks in So Cal to reinvent themselves and do not oppose
them next year if they wish to re organize, remember the idea of a roving con
was only because no one wanted to do it.
Let the So Cal guys run a permanent Fest/Con at Legoland if they want.
By the same token, if you felt left out of the decsion to move this to Portland,
perhaps the folks didn't realize you were around. Its not easy to remember
everyone, that's why staying involved and keeping a dialog with the community is
important. Make your voice heard by staying invovled. Maintaining a presence is
not easy, but if you got over looked in the process it may have been because you
are simply not visible enough. I tottally beleive you folks in So Cal should
have been consulted about this. You have every right to be concerned. Just step
up and reinvent the organizing body and make it happen next year. Please!
Legoland is the coolest place to be as a fan! Plus Legoland can help in ways!
They have offices and and huge Parking Lots
Some of my points may be vague or not as clear as I would have liked, I just
wanted you all to know that that I am concerned and I do agree the close
proximity is of concern. I am glad that at least someone stepped up. Again,
perhaps the So Cal Lugs just didn't realize they should step up. Now they know
they can. They should also know that people like me beleive in how proud you all
were to have the event happen in your backyard, Legoland!
Also, check this out, when I went to Bricks West, I was wearing shorts and a
t-shirt. I came home and there was 6 feet of snow everywhere! Talk about a
winter wonderland!
My Fiancee had a hard time just picking me up from the airport!
So having the event in So Cal in Feb. is perfect. Us east cost guys need the get
away in the sun in the dead of winter.
So what do you guys say? Portland is a go?! Next year bring the event back to
Legoland?
The Portland Organizers, allow the So Cal Lugs to adopt the event and take over
its management? If they commit to running the event, allow them to do so and
drop the idea at least for now about a Roving Event. Allow them to run a
permanent event if they can muster the determination.
The strength lay within determination. I want to go back to Legoland!
I stayed at Motel 8 cheap about 2 miles away. There are reasonable places to
stay and we should all flock to Legoland once a year for a Fan Convention.
Remember, TLC wants to have a relationship with th fans, they also want the
public to see what we make. This is important, remember, if you all have a good
game plan, commit to it, and see it through, who is to say TLC wouldn't help us.
Perhaps help in ways we really need to ensure a Fan Convention.
I know for a fact that many people that went to Bricks West went because they
not only wanted to attend the Fest itself, but were really excited to goto
Legoland, something some people really wanted to do for a long time, this gave
them the extra reason to come.
Also keep in mind that if you folks were to speak with the folks at Lego, find
out what if anything went wrong and give assurances that the NEW organizing body
will everything in its power to ensure the past mistakes would not be repeated.
Lastly, this is a call to the So Cal and Ca Lugs in general. Adrian of SanLug,
Members of Lugola, SCLTC, to name a few, put your heads together and organize
next years return to Legoland. Form a cohesion and keep the Fest at Legoland
where it should be, come on its Legoland! Rent the Windmill again, or get Lego
to help us with a more onsite location, they got land, they may be able to help
make the event a success.
Don't forget, TLC wants to have a relationship with the fans, the public seeing
our creations is important to them, it translates into the public wanting to go
home and build more. Let's be friends to them and be smart and come back to help
build our mutual relationship. This is the start to something wonderful. Let's
make better friends with the company. Let's do them the favor of drawing people
to the park and let them help us in turn with some of the hard stuff. They said
they want too! Choose you questions for help carefully, I'm sure they would be
consdiered within reason.
We ought to flock to Legoland. Take on the organizing and present a responsible
front.
Overcome what has fallen to the way side. Overcome some of the issues that have
overcome the very reason it was taken over. Remember Steve Barrile and et als,
are good people just trying to ensure the fun we all love to have at these
events. Allow the the So-Cal lugs to run a newly organized event at Legoland in
the years to come.
If you all show the desire to pick up the ball, I'm sure they would be happy to
throw the ball back into your court. You folks just didn't know you should have.
Now you do, now I want to go back to Legoland to see the people I love.
What say you?
This is what we make of it. Let's make it happen.
Eric Sophie
GardenSLUG
Mecha Hall of Fame
SpaceLUG -TBD-
Biomechanical Bricks
Lugnet Member 1051
Seriously wanting a permanent fest at Legoland. I'll help dammit!
My deepest respect and hope.
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
> The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
> have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.
>
> This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
> four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope.
Eric,
What corner of the U.S. is VA in? If you really wanted a corner, Atlanta would
be the place, and we have not one but two LEGO stores....of course I'm just
messing with you since there is no way I would put myself though what the
Brickfest committee goes through to put on such an event.
I do like VA for the east coast fest since it seems to fall just about in the
middle of the East coast. I didn't mind driving 9 hours from Atlanta, any
further and I'd have to fly most likely.
jt
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"James J. Trobaugh" wrote:
>
> In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
> > The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
> > have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.
> >
> > This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
> > four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope.
>
> Eric,
>
> What corner of the U.S. is VA in?
Hmm, looking at my trusty map, and considering the NE corner of the US
as Boston and the SE corner as Orlando (taking places that have known
centers of AFOLdom), then DC is closer to the NE corner. Let's see how
the quarters of the year stack out, assuming BW was to continue:
Jan-Mar: BricksWest, SW corner
Apr-Jun: available
Jul-Sep: BrickFest, NE corner
Oct-Dec: NW Brick Con, NW corner
Therefor, Orlando should organize a brick con in April, May, or June.
YUCK! A more ideal schedule would be:
Jan-Mar: SW corner (continue BricksWest)
Apr-Jun: NE corner (push BrickFest back into June where it started)
Jul-Sep: NW corner (pull NW Brick Con back into September)
Oct-Dec: SE corner (start a new brick con in Orlando)
Frank
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In lugnet.events, James Trobaugh wrote:
> In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
> > The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
> > have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.
> >
> > This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
> > four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope.
>
> Eric,
>
> What corner of the U.S. is VA in? If you really wanted a corner, Atlanta would
> be the place, and we have not one but two LEGO stores....of course I'm just
> messing with you since there is no way I would put myself though what the
> Brickfest committee goes through to put on such an event.
>
> I do like VA for the east coast fest since it seems to fall just about in the
> middle of the East coast. I didn't mind driving 9 hours from Atlanta, any
> further and I'd have to fly most likely.
>
> jt
Indeed, and just like Christina said, "Don't expect that next year's fest will
be held in Wa. DC , althought that's what they (we) are shooting for."
Having alternatives like the advantages Altlanta has is a good thing to
remember. Plus as a regional goal to have BF occur somewhere on the eastern
seaboard, in keeping with the idea that we have one in Cali., one in Seattle,
one in the east coast, then hopefully have a plan where we have one in ChiTown
or Clevland plus NYC forming 5 points of the USA.
Oh and who can forget our brothers in Canada just so they don't break my shoes.
I'm from Jersey.
Witty replies from RTL Toronto welcome,LOL!, but please try to offer some
constructive opinions and future hopes.
In all seriousness I heard Alan Bedford has some ideas, I'd like to hear them!
thoughts ?
thanks!
e
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> What say you?
Eric --- two words:
You ROCK.
I think you hit every possible nail on the head - seriously.
LUGOLA is having a meeting in a few days - hop on a plane and get out here!
I am sure this will be one of the topics on the plate at the meeting - there is
nothing I would love to see more than the fest not only return, but to stay in
its original home here in So Cal, that would just be awesome.
But my deepest fear is Matt burned the bridge for us at the Windmill. I think
LLCA is a natural choice, but other people have made good points why Anaheim may
be better. But hey, we got till Feb '05 to plan this thing out!
Mark P
http://www.landofbricks.com
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> Whew, I'm in Lego Recovery after Brick Fest!
-snipped a LOT of great stuff, read it if you haven't-
>
> What say you?
>
> This is what we make of it. Let's make it happen.
>
> Eric Sophie
> GardenSLUG
> Mecha Hall of Fame
> SpaceLUG -TBD-
> Biomechanical Bricks
> Lugnet Member 1051
>
> Seriously wanting a permanent fest at Legoland. I'll help dammit!
>
> My deepest respect and hope.
It feels really good to read comments and ideas like that.
One idea I'm thinking of and no doubt will be talking with the LUGOLA gang with
in a few weeks is the idea of a local con to be held in the Spring- about 6 mo.
after NWBC. So, it would fall sometime around April which has the advantage of
being just about the end of So Cal's storm season.
Bad side is no three day weekends in April; good side, daylight saving starts
again.
Now there is one thing about BFP(Brickfest-PDX) that concerns me- how to take
large MOCs to the show. I could REALLY use suggestions for hauling a creation
you'll see in a few days.
Adr.
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In lugnet.events, Frank Filz wrote:
> "James J. Trobaugh" wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > > It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
> > > The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
> > > have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.
> > >
> > > This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
> > > four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope.
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > What corner of the U.S. is VA in?
>
> Hmm, looking at my trusty map, and considering the NE corner of the US
> as Boston and the SE corner as Orlando (taking places that have known
> centers of AFOLdom), then DC is closer to the NE corner. Let's see how
> the quarters of the year stack out, assuming BW was to continue:
>
> Jan-Mar: BricksWest, SW corner
> Apr-Jun: available
> Jul-Sep: BrickFest, NE corner
> Oct-Dec: NW Brick Con, NW corner
>
> Therefor, Orlando should organize a brick con in April, May, or June.
> YUCK! A more ideal schedule would be:
>
> Jan-Mar: SW corner (continue BricksWest)
> Apr-Jun: NE corner (push BrickFest back into June where it started)
> Jul-Sep: NW corner (pull NW Brick Con back into September)
> Oct-Dec: SE corner (start a new brick con in Orlando)
>
> Frank
Hey ya, that's the idea! Assuming we could ever get there, beacuse in the years
to come it would be a great thing. But no so much as to...and I quote what was
so well put before, " We don't want to risk insignifigance through Dillusion..."
This way we grow to include a 4 or 5 Star prong approach and with cooperation
from the other Fests Management Teams to slightly adjust their time tables we
could (hope) to grow to have a Fest every Season at the 5 points of the US. (I
gotta choose a better term) however, I'm just saying the four corners of the US
and the Seasons match up. Heck if you were to Road Gig it, you could always be
where it is Warm! LOL!
Also, and, I feel comfortable saying this, this idea of a Fest in Easry Season,
one each of the Four corners of the USA, is something that I have had
conversations about with our friends at Lego. If we get organized to that point,
they will certainly at least listen, although I'm sure they themselves will act
when the time is right, so as either coincide with our growth or to spur us on.
It is all our choices.
The 1/4 of the year event, in and about the NYC area, offers a chance for the
Lego Company as well, because of the close proximity to their offices in Enfield
and possibly NYC (if they stay there long term) to show off world show type
venues like the Zwolle World Show that TLC would like to eventually have here in
the USA somewhere. TLC could also show off their new lines in a huge Expo, big
time stuff!
This is where groups on the East Coast could come together to run a Fan
Convention. NELUG, RTL, LUCNY, GardenSLUG, FLL, Lego Gamming, yay!, The Lego
Mecha Hall of Fame! (fan group) The Newly forming as we speak, Lego Space and
Mecha Combine, Castle Guild! ILTCO! More!
I talked to one of the RTL guys and they said they would come down.
We could have specialness by being:
1. Public
2. Fan Participation
3. Feature Lego Robotics via kick arse RTL event
4. Lego gets to Show case their product in a co show with the Fans as a World
Show type Venue. Dont make me call the Mayor of NYC to ask him to solicit your
venue location choice! I'm sure his Honor would love to have the Lego World Show
USA at the Javits Center.
All of these kinds of groups come together each season, at the four courners of
the US.
I think I heard someone say within 6-8 hours of everyone at all times.
Not to often, but enough that everyone should be able to come at some point or
another.
blahh blahhh, I ought to go build now.
:)
c-ya,
Thanks,
Consider all of this Thank You! Something to think about in the years to come.
Eric Sophie
Jan-Mar
Apr-Jun
Jul-Sep
Oct-Dec
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In lugnet.events, Frank Filz wrote:
> "James J. Trobaugh" wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > > It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
> > > The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
> > > have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.
> > >
> > > This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
> > > four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope.
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > What corner of the U.S. is VA in?
OK I going to add fuel to the fire...
>
> Hmm, looking at my trusty map, and considering the NE corner of the US
> as Boston and the SE corner as Orlando (taking places that have known
> centers of AFOLdom), then DC is closer to the NE corner. Let's see how
> the quarters of the year stack out, assuming BW was to continue:
>
> Jan-Mar: BricksWest, SW corner
> Apr-Jun: available
> Jul-Sep: BrickFest, NE corner
> Oct-Dec: NW Brick Con, NW corner
>
> Therefor, Orlando should organize a brick con in April, May, or June.
> YUCK! A more ideal schedule would be:
I with you here... April-May hotel/airfare rates are high for spring break
Orlando area, but I bet Nov-Dec is not much better. All in all it's Orlando with
rooms-o-plenty, always a good deal!
>
> Jan-Mar: SW corner (continue BricksWest)
> Apr-Jun: NE corner (push BrickFest back into June where it started)
> Jul-Sep: NW corner (pull NW Brick Con back into September)
> Oct-Dec: SE corner (start a new brick con in Orlando)
Funny you should say Oct-Dec for a Florida event, I was thinking the same thing
today at work...
I "may" have access to a free large 2-4 room venue in the Tampa Bay Area the
weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
So here is ten thousand dollar question...
[[[[ Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event? ]]]]
I need some names and numbers before I spend time planning or setting up an
event. Maybe it's too late for an event in Florida this year, but Nov 2004 could
work? Who knows, LIC could have pic-a-brick by then:)
Also in a perfect world I see four US events a year with one of the four being
the main event for that year. The other three would be smaller, main event flag
would be past year to year to the other locations.
Let me know what you think?
Robin Werner
GFLUG/GFLTC
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In lugnet.events, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
>
> > What say you?
>
> Eric --- two words:
>
> You ROCK.
>
> I think you hit every possible nail on the head - seriously.
>
> LUGOLA is having a meeting in a few days - hop on a plane and get out here!
>
> I am sure this will be one of the topics on the plate at the meeting - there is
> nothing I would love to see more than the fest not only return, but to stay in
> its original home here in So Cal, that would just be awesome.
>
> But my deepest fear is Matt burned the bridge for us at the Windmill. I think
> LLCA is a natural choice, but other people have made good points why Anaheim may
> be better. But hey, we got till Feb '05 to plan this thing out!
>
> Mark P
> http://www.landofbricks.com
Thank you I'm glad you read it all, I know this is important and we are at a
critical stage in our cohesion. All of us are starting to realize more and more
that we play an important role. A role that if we choose to take, can have
positive effects to our hobby, nay, way of life! LOL!
What, the Windmill, "doesn't want "Lego Fans" they better wake up they are on
the door step of the Park and if a rep from the company were to help smooth
things out. that would be cool.
LOL! I just yelled to Cindy if I could go, Ask Bryce to front me the Ticket and
I'm there. No kidding, call up that Mecha Wizzard up and ask him.
Thanks for continuing the dialog.
We gotta keep this rolling.
But in all fairness, if you want my full support, you have it, but for my Whole
hearted support, I would very much like to see the new Brickswests happen at
Legoland. That's the deal. So even you folks in So Cal have to give a little. Or
at least consider it becuase if others in the community outside So Cal are gonna
rally to your support, it may be because they also want to goto Legoland and
still hang and meet everyone like the way it was before.
Remember, TLC might even be flattered that at least some of us really want to go
back to Legoland and more so, to keep a Fan Conventiojn Nearby.
ok?
Thanks Ya'll,
Eric Sophie
GardenSLUG
Lego Mecha Hall of Fame
Space-LUG -TBD-
Biomechanical Bricks
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 01:36:22 GMT, "Robin Werner" <robstormer@cs.com>
wrote:
> > Jan-Mar: SW corner (continue BricksWest)
> > Apr-Jun: NE corner (push BrickFest back into June where it started)
> > Jul-Sep: NW corner (pull NW Brick Con back into September)
> > Oct-Dec: SE corner (start a new brick con in Orlando)
>
> Funny you should say Oct-Dec for a Florida event, I was thinking the same thing
> today at work...
>
> I "may" have access to a free large 2-4 room venue in the Tampa Bay Area the
> weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
It should be noted that is Thanksgiving weekend.
>
> So here is ten thousand dollar question...
> [[[[ Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event? ]]]]
I'd be there -- providing it wasn't on Thanksgiving weekend.
> I need some names and numbers before I spend time planning or setting up an
> event. Maybe it's too late for an event in Florida this year, but Nov 2004 could
> work? Who knows, LIC could have pic-a-brick by then:)
>
> Also in a perfect world I see four US events a year with one of the four being
> the main event for that year. The other three would be smaller, main event flag
> would be past year to year to the other locations.
>
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
> Robin Werner
> GFLUG/GFLTC
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In lugnet.events, Robin Werner wrote:
> In lugnet.events, Frank Filz wrote:
> > "James J. Trobaugh" wrote:
> > >
> > > In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > > > It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
> > > > The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
> > > > have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.
> > > >
> > > > This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
> > > > four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope.
> > >
> > > Eric,
> > Hmm, looking at my trusty map, and considering the NE corner of the US
> > as Boston and the SE corner as Orlando (taking places that have known
> > centers of AFOLdom), then DC is closer to the NE corner. Let's see how
> > the quarters of the year stack out, assuming BW was to continue:
> >
> > Jan-Mar: BricksWest, SW corner
> > Apr-Jun: available
> > Jul-Sep: BrickFest, NE corner
> > Oct-Dec: NW Brick Con, NW corner
> >
> > Therefor, Orlando should organize a brick con in April, May, or June.
> > YUCK! A more ideal schedule would be:
>
> I agree with you here... April-May hotel/airfare rates are high for spring break
> Orlando area, but I bet Nov-Dec is not much better. All in all it's Orlando with
> rooms-o-plenty, always a good deal!
>
>
> >
> > Jan-Mar: SW corner (continue BricksWest)
> > Apr-Jun: NE corner (push BrickFest back into June where it started)
> > Jul-Sep: NW corner (pull NW Brick Con back into September)
> > Oct-Dec: SE corner (start a new brick con in Orlando)
>
> Funny you should say Oct-Dec for a Florida event, I was thinking the same thing
> today at work...
Right on, that's cool.
> I "may" have access to a free large 2-4 room venue in the Tampa Bay Area the
> weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
See that! The guys in Florida Rock! I met people from Florida at Brick Fest, I
say to you guys! Make it happen! Florida has many great things to offer.
That's what is so great about America. Not to sound elitest, its just that each
state contributes to the Union, something we are proud about.
>
> So here is ten thousand dollar question...
> [[[[ Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event? ]]]]
I lived in the Key Biscane area for 2 years. We'll all chip in and rent a
Laborgini and take turns driving it to the Lego Store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I need some names and numbers before I spend time planning or setting up an
> event. Maybe it's too late for an event in Florida this year, but Nov 2004 could
> work? Who knows, LIC could have pic-a-brick by then:)
I say when the time is right we should convene a counsel and discuss the
strengths and growth possiblilities to actually and trully make our Brick Fest /
Cons take off and become a true and unique Phenomena.
>
> Also in a perfect world I see four US events a year with one of the four being
> the main event for that year. The other three would be smaller, main event flag
> would be past year to year to the other locations.
Right this is where Chicago and or Cleveland and or Mighigan could fit in.
The Uber show of Lego Fandom would happen every Third or Second time a year
round on a cycle.
So if the Major Clubs and People in the Florida and Mid West area can gear up,
just remember there could be a goal of having 4 fests, one at each season, and
the 5th and biggest show being every other year. Question is Who hosts this?
And for all else, please consider for some, that people in Chicago, Cleveland,
and the Mid West and elsewhere, feel that they have just as much to offer as to
where to host.
This is a good thing, something to work on.
All of us should be able to figure out what might be best.
What say you?
Could some of these groups help work towards this or, would any of you like to
offer your thoughts?
Do you think the idea of a Brick Fest/Con happening so that all seasons could
have an event to suit local Fans and potentials, plus the possiblitiy that a 5th
Largest could occur in one of your territories as the 5th Mighty Spur of the 5!
The biggest Show every 2nd year? This show would hopefully be embrased by the
Lego Company and they could be invited to partipate in the Largest show we have?
!!!
There is alot to move forward too. And some really cool possibilities!
Thoughts?
Eric Sophie
GardenSLUG
Lego Mecha Hall of Fame
Space-LUG-Mecha Combine -TBD-
Biomechanical Bricks
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
> Robin Werner
> GFLUG/GFLTC
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the
> USA. The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East
> Coast to have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of
> the US.
Hey, why stop there? Seriously. Compare the sizes of the US and Europe.
How many brick events does Europe have compared to the US? Why don't we have
more? Why just the four corners of the US? Milwaukee, Chicago, or Indianapolis
would be great places to start an event for the Eastern Central US, and I'm sure
there's someplace east of the Rockies that would be a great place for a Western
Central US event. I have a feeling that the more FOL Cons there are around the
country, the more this whole experience will start to seep into the public
awareness, and the more self-sustaining they'll end up being. They don't all
have to be mega-huge Cons with full-field attendance, and not every area would
be able to support a huge Con (heck, the primary reason why GenCon moved is
because it outgrew Milwaukee). Also, the more Cons there are to inspire new
blood, the more people there will be who can help organize them or set up
displays (which I'm sure was a big concern with the creation of BW). If done
properly, twenty years from now noone should have any reason to balk at the idea
of setting up a second or even third Con in the same State, as long as they're
spaced out a bit through the year.
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In lugnet.events, Mike Case wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 01:36:22 GMT, "Robin Werner" <robstormer@cs.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > Jan-Mar: SW corner (continue BricksWest)
> > > Apr-Jun: NE corner (push BrickFest back into June where it started)
> > > Jul-Sep: NW corner (pull NW Brick Con back into September)
> > > Oct-Dec: SE corner (start a new brick con in Orlando)
> >
> > Funny you should say Oct-Dec for a Florida event, I was thinking the same thing
> > today at work...
> >
> > I "may" have access to a free large 2-4 room venue in the Tampa Bay Area the
> > weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
>
>
> It should be noted that is Thanksgiving weekend.
>
>
> >
> > So here is ten thousand dollar question...
> > [[[[ Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event? ]]]]
>
>
>
> I'd be there -- providing it wasn't on Thanksgiving weekend.
>
>
> > I need some names and numbers before I spend time planning or setting up an
> > event. Maybe it's too late for an event in Florida this year, but Nov 2004 could
> > work? Who knows, LIC could have pic-a-brick by then:)
> >
> > Also in a perfect world I see four US events a year with one of the four being
> > the main event for that year. The other three would be smaller, main event flag
> > would be past year to year to the other locations.
> >
> >
> > Let me know what you think?
> >
> > Robin Werner
> > GFLUG/GFLTC
Hey ya, if ever something like that were to happen the dates would have to
chosen carefully, good news is if you have family in Florida you could vacation
for the Holidays to see your relatives and then swing on by the Lego Event and
Party with the other AFoL and show off and see MOCS then Game, then attend a
session or partake in a tournament!
Whooo Hoooo, Turkey Sang-witches and Bricks!
e
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> The 1/4 of the year event, in and about the NYC area, offers a chance for the
> Lego Company as well, because of the close proximity to their offices in
> Enfield and possibly NYC (if they stay there long term) to show off world
> show type venues like the Zwolle World Show that TLC would like to eventually
> have here in the USA somewhere.
They do maintain two offices in NYC. The online portion of LD is located
in downtown Manhattan, and the Toy Fair showroom is in midtown. They kinda have
to rent that space year round so it's available during the TF season (and the
bricks mounted as door-handles and wall sections sorta spoil the space for
stodgy office meetings anyways). I'm not sure exactly all of what the showroom
gets used for during the other 51 weeks (especially the showroom), but I did
find out that they like to take advantage of the attached private conference
area for business meetings in NYC.
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In lugnet.events, David Laswell wrote:
> In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the
> > USA. The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East
> > Coast to have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of
> > the US.
>
> Hey, why stop there? Seriously. Compare the sizes of the US and Europe.
> How many brick events does Europe have compared to the US? Why don't we have
> more? Why just the four corners of the US? Milwaukee, Chicago, or Indianapolis
> would be great places to start an event for the Eastern Central US, and I'm sure
> there's someplace east of the Rockies that would be a great place for a Western
> Central US event.
At BrickFest, several people approached me about a Midwest fest. I'd like to
have one in Chicago, but I can't lead it with everything else I'm involved in. I
encourage locals to think about this, as I'd love to have one here. O'Hare is a
VERY convenient airport to get to, since it's a major hub. One of the perks of
living here is I can get direct flights to almost anywhere I need to go :-)
-Tim
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In lugnet.events, Tim Courtney wrote:
> At BrickFest, several people approached me about a Midwest fest. I'd like to
> have one in Chicago, but I can't lead it with everything else I'm involved >in.
I can't either (and with no experience in even attending one, I'd be a poor
choice anyways), but I might be interested in participating on a committee of
some sort. I mean, who needs sleep?
> I encourage locals to think about this, as I'd love to have one here. O'Hare
> is a VERY convenient airport to get to, since it's a major hub.
Oh, you're just saying that because it's the only airport that has an
amusement ride instead of a people-mover. ;P
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> Do you think the idea of a Brick Fest/Con happening so that all seasons could
> have an event to suit local Fans and potentials, plus the possiblitiy that a 5th
> Largest could occur in one of your territories as the 5th Mighty Spur of the 5!
Eric & All -
I just want to clear up that BrickFest(tm) is a trademark of Brick Events, LLC.
They're keen on not seeing their trademark diluted, and rightfully so - since
they've put in an incredible amount of effort over the past four years to build
up BrickFest(tm) to what it is today. Please respect that.
From what I know, the license of the name BrickFest(tm) to the PDX event is a
one-time deal, and future uses of the trademark will need to be approved for
each event. The very fact that they even considered this licensing shows a lot
of trust built up in those involved with the PDX event.
-Tim
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In lugnet.events, Tim Courtney wrote:
> In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
>
> > Do you think the idea of a Brick Fest/Con happening so that all seasons could
> > have an event to suit local Fans and potentials, plus the possiblitiy that a 5th
> > Largest could occur in one of your territories as the 5th Mighty Spur of the 5!
>
> Eric & All -
> I just want to clear up that BrickFest(tm) is a trademark of Brick Events, LLC.
> They're keen on not seeing their trademark diluted, and rightfully so - since
> they've put in an incredible amount of effort over the past four years to build
> up BrickFest(tm) to what it is today. Please respect that.
>
> From what I know, the license of the name BrickFest(tm) to the PDX event is a
> one-time deal, and future uses of the trademark will need to be approved for
> each event. The very fact that they even considered this licensing shows a lot
> of trust built up in those involved with the PDX event.
>
> -Tim
OMG - Please oh please tell me we are not going to go down this road again. This
is something that really irks me in such a major way its not even close to being
funny.
We are *very* aware of the (tm) and nobody is trying to hurt anybody, Maybe it
should be taken as a compliment people try to strive to reach the same level as
BF has.
And BTW, this is the *very* reason I was not happy with the BFPDX name – one
time shot or not.
*sigh*
I am very disappointed this has come up again, and know that since it has risen
it will probably not end for a long time and every other word on Lugnet will
have a (tm) thrown onto the end of it for a very, very long time. Not saying its
wrong or you have no right to do it – but I am saying its very annoying.
oh well, life shall continue(tm)
Mark P
http://www.landofbricks.com
Mark P
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In lugnet.events, Tim Courtney wrote:
> From what I know, the license of the name BrickFest(tm) to the PDX event is a
> one-time deal, and future uses of the trademark will need to be approved for
> each event.
Not to disparage anyone, but I feel that part of the character of a Con
comes from having a unique name. I know with RPG/Comic Cons there's GenCon and
GenCon UK, and there's San Diego Comic-Con and Motor City Comic-Con, but think
of how boring it would be if we had GenCon Atlanta instead of DragonCon, GenCon
Los Angeles instead of OrcCon, or Chicago Comic-Con instead of Wizard World
Chicago. Being the biggest Con of a genre means you should receive respect for
what you've acheived, not that everyone should try to clone your event (I mean,
how boring would it be if it was the exact same event held five times a year?).
Granted, things get a bit more limited when the prevailing theme is always going
to be "Bricks", but I think I've seen unrefutable proof that this is a group of
highly imaginative people.
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In lugnet.events, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> In lugnet.events, Tim Courtney wrote:
> > Eric & All -
> > I just want to clear up that BrickFest(tm) is a trademark of Brick Events, LLC.
> > They're keen on not seeing their trademark diluted, and rightfully so - since
> > they've put in an incredible amount of effort over the past four years to build
> > up BrickFest(tm) to what it is today. Please respect that.
> OMG - Please oh please tell me we are not going to go down this road again. This
> is something that really irks me in such a major way its not even close to being
> funny.
The only reason I mentioned it is I noted the way Eric was referencing generic
LEGO fan events as "BrickFest," and I had noted the quote below from this post:
http://news.lugnet.com/events/?n=927
> > > I think every event should be called Brick Fest. Then sling the name of the
> > > city next to it. Brick Fest, Brick Fest LLC, and let the NWBC is cool too.
Perhaps in hindsight I should have posted this note in direct response to that
quote.
> We are *very* aware of the (tm) and nobody is trying to hurt anybody, Maybe it
> should be taken as a compliment people try to strive to reach the same level as
> BF has.
Yes, it should be taken as a compliment. But, an unfortunate side effect of our
legal system is we have to assert trademarks and ensure they don't get diluted,
so they can be protected. Hence LEGO's lawyers and the way they act towards our
use of the LEGO brand, too.
Not saying I like it, just saying it's the way it is. It's also playing nice to
respect other people's names they've built up - trademarked or not.
Again, not trying to drag the issue you are sensitive to up to be re-hashed.
Only issuing a friendly reminder.
-Tim
(I'm not a partner in Brick Events, LLC, but I'm a big fan of what they do. I'm
also very much in favor of seeing new fests start up and will support them
however I can - or at the very least in spirit - when they do.)
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Yes. Brickfest being over, you could have Lunch, or Dinner, or Snack, and so
forth. I guess this Portland one is a second Brickfest.
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Comments added to select statements of Eric's below:
In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> What's wrong with the Windmill? I heard they didn't get paid.
> I say so what, call them guys up and explain your a different and new committee.
> Don't let a past debt interfere with your desire to have a fest at Legoland. By
> rights we can just like anyone, rent the Windmill, don't mention Matt or just
> explain the difference. Our money is good.
I liked the Windmill location and I thought it worked marginally for the
presentations. I also like the fact that we were at Legoland. For me going to
the park is part of the attraction of attending BricksWest.
I was told, not by Windmill or Matt, that the facility was not paid for their
services. I believe that this is the current state of affairs concerning the
resolution of the contract between Matt and the Windmill. Unfortunately, I do
not think any business would allow a similar organization to return when they
are still owed money. Also, imagine the asking price for the same services that
were provided. It has to be double, right?
The year before the BW02 convention was held at a Hotel/time share/investment
property across from Legoland. The cost was exhorborant for the services
provided and no one is certain of the resolution of that contract besides Matt.
For those that attended, remember the odd rule that we were not allowed to bring
in food from outside the hotel and consume it in the convention space? They
reportedly tried to charge BW02 for a "catering" fee for the food that was
brought in.
The biggest problem with a convention near Legoland is the lack of adequate
convention space. There are many hotels within a short drive of the park, but
not adequate convention facilities.
> By the same token, if you felt left out of the decsion to move this to Portland,
> perhaps the folks didn't realize you were around. Its not easy to remember
> everyone, that's why staying involved and keeping a dialog with the community is
> important. Make your voice heard by staying invovled. Maintaining a presence is
> not easy, but if you got over looked in the process it may have been because you
> are simply not visible enough. I tottally beleive you folks in So Cal should
> have been consulted about this. You have every right to be concerned. Just step
> up and reinvent the organizing body and make it happen next year. Please!
> Legoland is the coolest place to be as a fan! Plus Legoland can help in ways!
> They have offices and and huge Parking Lots
Actually, Lego Retail, which did have their US Offices out there is moving. I
cannot remember where they are going, maybe Enfield. But they have undergone
huge changes including leadership. Also the Legoland park is rumored to be going
through another round of management changes.
This points make it difficult for any group, no matter how established, to
continue and ongoing relationship with the park. The turn over is enormous at
Legoland. In the two years of doing an event there, there have been two
different administrations of the park. If the rumor is true, then there will be
three admins in three years. Hard for the park to be consistent when the
leaderhsip changes.
As for the SoCal folks, there was only one (or two individuals) that
participated in organizing BW03. I hope that Eric is not advocating that the
organizers of BW03 should have contacted SoCal and told them to put on a
convention at Legoland essentially forcing the decision upon them.
I cannot say why the one (or two individuals) that participated in BW03 planning
were not contacted. They may have been contacted. I know I did not contact them,
but that's becuase I barely know who is in the North Georgi Lego Train Club, the
one LUG I belong to. So do not count on me knowing who is in what club.
As for the SoCal folks wanting to do a convention at Legoland, there is nothing
preventing them. I refer you to another post I made recently
(http://news.lugnet.com/events/?n=938). Scroll down to the part about what it
takes to do put on a convention. I think I included about 1/10 of what you need
to do (not sarcasm in this instance).
Participation in ogranizing BW03 and BW02 was fairly open. Anyone taking the
initiative could have stepped forward and helped out. Afterall, a guy from
Georgia was one of the organizers so it could easily have been done from someone
in the SoCal LUG.
Why few from SoCal LUG participated is a question to ask of them (not being
confrontational, I only know a few were asked and some declined to participate
while others could not).
> Also, check this out, when I went to Bricks West, I was wearing shorts and a
> t-shirt. I came home and there was 6 feet of snow everywhere! Talk about a
> winter wonderland!
If it snows in Portland on the weekend of the BW PDX, we will never hear the end
of it. But hey the almanac records the weather last year on Feb 14th as being in
the 50's without rain, sleet, snow, or ice. That trend is fairly consistent
throughout the previous years.
> I know for a fact that many people that went to Bricks West went because they
> not only wanted to attend the Fest itself, but were really excited to goto
> Legoland, something some people really wanted to do for a long time, this gave
> them the extra reason to come.
>
> Also keep in mind that if you folks were to speak with the folks at Lego, find
> out what if anything went wrong and give assurances that the NEW organizing body
> will everything in its power to ensure the past mistakes would not be repeated.
I personnally will miss the opportunity to place my hands in the pick a brick
containers and grab bag fulls of colors and pieces I cannot get easily.
I also really wanted to ride the new rides, too.
But hey, maybe the SoCal folks will get involved in organizing BF PDX and learn
what it takes to organize a fan convention.
Respectfully,
Todd
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In response to what Robin wrote, but taken away because its general to his post.
I think a Lego Fest in Orlando in October or early September is perfect.
Unfortunately, rates go up in November and December in preparation for family
travel from cold climates.
I have often been in Orlando in Sept and rates are at their lowest all year.
Schools across the contry have started back, conventions are low in number (the
main season being in Spring), and many colleges now have a three day break in
October called Fall Break or something like that.
There is the Lego Store in Lake Buena Vista (Downtown Disney and the weather is
ususally excellent.
Todd
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Mike Case wrote:
> > I "may" have access to a free large 2-4 room venue in the Tampa Bay Area the
> > weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
>
>
> It should be noted that is Thanksgiving weekend.
>
> >
> > So here is ten thousand dollar question...
> > [[[[ Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event? ]]]]
>
>
> I'd be there -- providing it wasn't on Thanksgiving weekend.
On the other hand, for me, Thanksgiving weekend would make it easier.
Why? Well, my mom snowbirds in St. Pete. It would be pretty easy for me
to get anywhere in the Tampa bay area, and combine the trip with TG day
with my mom. If this is decided fast enough, I can even allocate the 2
vacation days I have unallocated for this year to the travel days
necessary (well, I could get away with one and fly back Sunday evening,
but I'd certainly want to fly out Tuesday before turkey day).
Frank
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > > weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
> >
> >
> > It should be noted that is Thanksgiving weekend.
> >
> >
> > I'd be there -- providing it wasn't on Thanksgiving weekend.
> >
> >
>
> Hey ya, if ever something like that were to happen the dates would have to
> chosen carefully, good news is if you have family in Florida you could vacation
> for the Holidays to see your relatives and then swing on by the Lego Event and
> Party with the other AFoL and show off and see MOCS then Game, then attend a
> session or partake in a tournament!
>
> Whooo Hoooo, Turkey Sang-witches and Bricks!
I will actually be in Orlando that week but will be heading back up to Amelia
Island for turkey with the inlaws on the 27th. So I doubt I could turn around
and drive back down for the weekend.
These holidays are tricky, for example Brickfest PDX being on Valentine's day
pretty much makes it out of the question for me. I already felt the wrath of my
NLSO when we did a train show out of town on mother's day weekend and Brickfest
on my daughter's first birthday (Aug. 8th)
jt
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:58:12 GMT, "Todd Thuma" <thumat@gactr.uga.edu>
wrote:
> In response to what Robin wrote, but taken away because its general to his post.
>
> I think a Lego Fest in Orlando in October or early September is perfect.
> Unfortunately, rates go up in November and December in preparation for family
> travel from cold climates.
>
> I have often been in Orlando in Sept and rates are at their lowest all year.
> Schools across the contry have started back, conventions are low in number (the
> main season being in Spring), and many colleges now have a three day break in
> October called Fall Break or something like that.
>
> There is the Lego Store in Lake Buena Vista (Downtown Disney and the weather is
> ususally excellent.
>
> Todd
This is certainly the model I'm hoping for.
Though, I'm biased since it would mean having a Brickevent practically
in my own backyard.
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In lugnet.events, James Trobaugh wrote:
> In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > > > weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
> > >
> > >
> > > It should be noted that is Thanksgiving weekend.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd be there -- providing it wasn't on Thanksgiving weekend.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hey ya, if ever something like that were to happen the dates would have to
> > chosen carefully, good news is if you have family in Florida you could vacation
> > for the Holidays to see your relatives and then swing on by the Lego Event and
> > Party with the other AFoL and show off and see MOCS then Game, then attend a
> > session or partake in a tournament!
> >
> > Whooo Hoooo, Turkey Sang-witches and Bricks!
>
>
> I will actually be in Orlando that week but will be heading back up to Amelia
> Island for turkey with the inlaws on the 27th. So I doubt I could turn around
> and drive back down for the weekend.
>
> These holidays are tricky, for example Brickfest PDX being on Valentine's day
> pretty much makes it out of the question for me. I already felt the wrath of my
> NLSO when we did a train show out of town on mother's day weekend and Brickfest
> on my daughter's first birthday (Aug. 8th)
>
> jt
What if it was on the weekend of Nov 22-23?
Here is a event plan (just for fun)...
http://www.bricktime.com/fla-event.pdf
Lets say your coming down to eat with the folks on Thanksgiving. Here is one way
it could go down...
1- Drive down Friday
2- Go to the event Saturday (maybe the wife and kids could go to Bush Gardens
Tampa for the day?)
3- Bring the family to the Sunday public day
4- Check out LIC Orlando Monday and go to one of the parks
5- You still have Tues/Wed for more park action
6- Dinner with the folks for Thanksgiving.
7- Go home Fri-Sun
Just, some ideas to ponder...
Robin Werner
GFLUG/GFLTC
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Robin Werner wrote:
>
> In lugnet.events, James Trobaugh wrote:
> > In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
> > > > > weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It should be noted that is Thanksgiving weekend.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd be there -- providing it wasn't on Thanksgiving weekend.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey ya, if ever something like that were to happen the dates would have to
> > > chosen carefully, good news is if you have family in Florida you could vacation
> > > for the Holidays to see your relatives and then swing on by the Lego Event and
> > > Party with the other AFoL and show off and see MOCS then Game, then attend a
> > > session or partake in a tournament!
> > >
> > > Whooo Hoooo, Turkey Sang-witches and Bricks!
> >
> >
> > I will actually be in Orlando that week but will be heading back up to Amelia
> > Island for turkey with the inlaws on the 27th. So I doubt I could turn around
> > and drive back down for the weekend.
> >
> > These holidays are tricky, for example Brickfest PDX being on Valentine's day
> > pretty much makes it out of the question for me. I already felt the wrath of my
> > NLSO when we did a train show out of town on mother's day weekend and Brickfest
> > on my daughter's first birthday (Aug. 8th)
> >
> > jt
>
> What if it was on the weekend of Nov 22-23?
Hmm, that would be harder for me to do :-) That would take 4 vacation
days (fly Friday, take off Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday).
Frank
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In lugnet.events, Robin Werner wrote:
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So here is ten thousand dollar question...
Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event?
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Ooh, ooh! I would. I might even be able to nudge my parents into letting me.
(I’m Jacksonville-based.)
I guess I could start the bare bones of a Space exhibit. :)
I believe another Northen-based AFOL- Lenny Hoffman- also exists up here,
another space/castle guy.
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In lugnet.events, John Henry Kruer wrote:
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In lugnet.events, Robin Werner wrote:
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So here is ten thousand dollar question...
Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event?
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Ooh, ooh! I would. I might even be able to nudge my parents into letting
me. (I’m Jacksonville-based.)
I guess I could start the bare bones of a Space exhibit. :)
I believe another Northen-based AFOL- Lenny Hoffman- also exists up here,
another space/castle guy.
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Ya, an event in the south would be attended by me. BRICKSOUTH...mmmm. Free
grits for all attendees.
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In lugnet.events, Chris Giddens wrote:
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Ya, an event in the south would be attended by me. BRICKSOUTH...mmmm. Free
grits for all attendees.
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If Giddens is coming then I KNOW I’m going to go, even if it means crawling
there on my hands.
-JHK
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In lugnet.events, Robin Werner wrote:
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> What if it was on the weekend of Nov 22-23?
I've just realized that I cannot make it on the 23, so I can't make that weekend
either.
:(
-JHK
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I believe another Northen-based AFOL- Lenny Hoffman- also exists up here,
another space/castle guy.
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let me throw my voice into the mix:
I’m a florida guy (Tallahassee, to be specific) - and I think an OrlandoFest
would be AWESOME!! I’d totally be willing to do anything I could to make
something like this happen. My gramma lives in Orlando, so I can easily take a
trip to visit her/ participate in a Fest.
-lenny
ps, also Jon Reddick of BZPower is in Tally, so he might be someone else to
throw into the mix.
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