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Attn: Chris Dee
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Date: 
Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:51:34 GMT
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I have enourmous mail problem right now. Here the reply to your mail:

I'm glad that anything happens with the classic windows I love so much. But
right now, I can't be so much of help due to much work.

Here's the latest lds - I think... The headers out the output files still need
some postprocessing.

btw, have you seen the very old windows (those _without_ studs!) I posted to
lugnet.dat.parts a couple of weeks ago? Let's say we didn't think of them! ;)

Yes, I can live with separate glass pane parts, but I will not take any
responsibility for the running out of 3-digit part numbers... ;) If you like to
use only one variant of pins, inline the pins or rename them, that's no problem
with me. In other words: you are free to do whatever you think is best with
them. Unfortunately, I can only come with some small input right now.

I am pretty sure the solid stud variant only came with large ledge because the
reason they shortned the ledges was to allow the shutters to be completely
closed. And the shutters came in the early 70's, or at least long after the
solid studded windows era. I haven't seen any solid studs on an ABS made window.


/Tore

Three files "attached". Sorry, you'll have to copy n paste:




------------ pin.dat ------------
0 Bottom Pin for Classic Windows Smooth
0 Name: pin1.dat
0 Author: Tore Eriksson
0 Unofficial Primitive

0 BFC CERTIFY CW

1 16 0 0 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 2-4edge.dat
2 24 4 0 4 4 0 -6
2 24 -4 0 4 -4 0 -6
2 24 4 -6 4 4 -6 -6
2 24 -4 -6 4 -4 -6 -6
2 24 4 -6 -5 -4 -6 -5
2 24 4 0 -6 4 -6 -6
2 24 -4 0 -6 -4 -6 -6
1 16 0 0 4 -4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 2-4disc.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 2-4disc.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 4 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 4 2-4cyli.dat
4 16 -4 0 4 -4 0 -6 4 0 -6 4 0 4
4 16 4 -6 4 4 -6 -5 -4 -6 -5 -4 -6 4
4 16 4 0 4 4 0 -6 4 -6 -6 4 -6 4
4 16 -4 -6 4 -4 -6 -6 -4 0 -6 -4 0 4
0



------------ pin2.dat ------------
0 Bottom Pin for Classic Windows with Groove
0 Name: pin2.dat
0 BFC CW
0 Author: Tore Eriksson
0 Unofficial Primitive


2 24 1.531 -6 7.696 1.531 -4 7.696
2 24 -1.531 -6 7.696 -1.531 -4 7.696

1 16 0 0 4 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 1-8edge.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 -4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 1-8edge.dat
1 16 0 -4 4 1.531 0 -3.696 0 1 0 3.696 0 1.531 1-16edge.dat
1 16 0 -4 4 -1.531 0 3.696 0 1 0 3.696 0 1.531 1-16edge.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 -2.828 0 2.828 0 1 0 2.828 0 2.828 1-16edge.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 2.828 0 -2.828 0 1 0 2.828 0 2.828 1-16edge.dat
2 24 4 0 4 4 0 -6
2 24 -4 0 4 -4 0 -6
2 24 4 -6 4 4 -6 -6
2 24 -4 -6 4 -4 -6 -6
2 24 4 -6 -5 1.531 -6 -5
2 24 1.531 -4 -6 -1.531 -4 -6
2 24 -1.531 -6 -5 -4 -6 -5
2 24 4 0 -6 4 -6 -6
2 24 -4 0 -6 -4 -6 -6
1 16 0 0 4 -4 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 4 2-4disc.dat
1 16 0 -4 4 1.531 0 -3.696 0 1 0 3.696 0 1.531 1-8disc.dat
1 16 0 -4 4 4 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 4 2-4cyli.dat
1 16 0 -4 4 -2.828 0 2.828 0 -2 0 2.828 0 2.828 1-16cyli.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 2.828 0 -2.828 0 2 0 2.828 0 2.828 1-16cyli.dat

1 16 0 -4 4 -4 0 0 0 -2 0 0 0 4 1-8cyli.dat
1 16 0 -6 4 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 4 1-8cyli.dat

4 16 -4 0 4 -4 0 -6 4 0 -6 4 0 4

2 24 1.531 -6 -6 1.531 -6 7.696
4 16 4 -6 4 4 -6 -5 1.531 -6 -5 1.531 -6 7.696
2 24 -1.531 -6 -6 -1.531 -6 7.696
4 16 -4 -6 -5 -4 -6 4 -1.531 -6 7.696 -1.531 -6 -5
4 16 0 -4 -6 0 -4 4 1.531 -4 7.696 1.531 -4 -6
4 16 0 -4 4 0 -4 -6 -1.531 -4 -6 -1.531 -4 7.696

2 24 1.531 -4 -6 1.531 -4 7.696
2 24 -1.531 -4 -6 -1.531 -6 -6
4 16 -1.531 -4 -6 -1.531 -6 -6 -1.531 -6 7.696 -1.531 -4 7.696
2 24 -1.531 -4 -6 -1.531 -4 7.696
2 24 1.531 -4 -6 1.531 -6 -6
4 16 1.531 -6 -6 1.531 -4 -6 1.531 -4 7.696 1.531 -6 7.696

4 16 4 0 4 4 0 -6 4 -6 -6 4 -6 4
4 16 -4 -6 4 -4 -6 -6 -4 0 -6 -4 0 4
0

4 16 1.531 -6 7.696 2.828 -6 6.828 3.696 -6 5.531 4 -6 4
4 16 -4 -6 4 -3.696 -6 5.531 -2.828 -6 6.828 -1.531 -6 7.696
0


------------ win.lds ------------
w=3
h=2
g=1
' g=1: with glass
' g=0: without glass
o=1
' o=0: no holes on top
' o=1: holes on top
z=-12.5
'z=-10
' z=-12.5: long ledge (older)
' z=-10: ledge cut off (to fit shutters; newer)
a=1
' a=0: thin walls (newer)
' a=1: thick walls (older)
t=0
' t=0: solid pins (older)
' t=1: slotted pins (newer)
if h>1 then g=1
if w<2 then o=0
if g=1 then
? "0 Window  1 x " w " x " h
else
? "0 Window Classic  1 x " w " x " h " without Glass"
end if
' Correct the spaces in .dat file if needed
0 Name: win.dat
' Rename .dat file!
if o=1 then
0 with Holes
else
0 without Holes
end if
0 Author: Tore Eriksson
0 Unofficial Part

x=w*10
y=h*24
z99=-7
for i=4-x to x step 20
2 24 i y -6  i+12 y -6
next i
if w<2 then t=-1
if  t=0 then
for i=20-x to x-20 step 20
  1 16  i y 0  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  pin1.dat
next i
end if
if t=1 then
for i=20-x to x-20 step 20
  1 16  i y 0  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  pin2.dat
next i
end if
p1  x y z
p2  x y-1.25 z
p3  x y-6 z99
p4  x 0 z99
p5  x 0 10
p6  x y 10
p8 p4
if h>1 then
p4  x 2 z99
p7  x 2 -10
p8  x 0 -10
end if
if a=1 then
' plain version (old)
p11  x-4 y -6
p12  x11 y-6 -6
p13  x11 y-6 -5
p14  x11 4 -5
p14  x11 3 -5
p15  x11 4 10
p15  x11 3 10
p16  x11 y 10
' /plain version (old)
end if
if a=0 then
p11  x-4 y -6
p12  x11 y-6 -6
p13  x11 y-6 -5
p14  x-3 y-6 -5
p15  x14 3 -5
p16  x14 3 10
p17  x14 y-6 10
p18  x11 y-6 10
p19  x11 y 10
end if
' inner frame
p21  x-5 y-9 -5
p22  x-5 5 -5
if h>1 then y22=7
p31  x21+2 y21+2 -10
p32  x22+2 y22-2 -10
p33  x31 y31 z99
p34  x32 y32 z33
p41  x21 y21 -10
p42  x22 y22 -10
'
'
'
if z<>-10 then y2=y1
if z=-10 then 2 24  p1 p2
for i=1 to 46
p(i+50) 0-x(i) y(i) z(i)
next i
'
mirror x
line
p2
p3
p4
line end
if h>1 then
line
p4
p7
p8
line end
end if
'
line
p8
p5
p6
p1
line end
if a=1 then
' plain version (old)
line
p16
p11
p12
p13
p14
p15
p16
p6
line end
' /plain version (old)
' /not plain version (old)
else
line
p19
p11
p12
p13
p14
p17
p18
p19
p6
line end
line
p14
p15
p16
p17
line end
2 24  p13 p18
'
' /not plain version (old)
end if
mirror off
'ACROSS
2 24  p1 p51
2 24  p3 p53
2 24  p4 p54
2 24  p5 p55
if h>1 then
2 24  p7 p57
2 24  p8 p58
end if
if a=1 then
' plain version (old)
2 24  p14 p64
' /plain version (old)
else
2 24  p16 p66
' /not plain version (old)
end if
2 24  p12 p62
2 24  p13 p63
2 24  p15 p65
'
if z=-10 then
2 24  p2 p52
4 16  p1 p2 p52 p51
4 16  p1 p6 p3 p2
4 16  p51 p52 p53 p56
else
3 16  p1 p6 p3
3 16  p51 p53 p56
end if
'
'POS
4 16  p3 p6 p5 p4
if h>1 then
4 16  p4 p5 p8 p7
end if
if a=1 then
' plain version (old)
4 16  p11 p12 p13 p16
4 16  p13 p14 p15 p16
4 16  p1 p11 p16 p6
4 16  p5 p6 p16 p15
' /plain version (old)
else
4 16  p11 p12 p18 p19
4 16  p13 p14 p17 p18
4 16  p14 p15 p16 p17
4 16  p1 p11 p19 p6
4 16  p6 p19 p18 p17
4 16  p6 p17 p16 p5

end if
'NEG
4 16  p53 p54 p55 p56
'
if h>1 then
4 16  p54 p57 p58 p55
end if
if a=1 then
' plain version (old)
4 16  p51 p56 p66 p61
4 16  p55 p65 p66 p56
4 16  p61 p66 p63 p62
4 16  p63 p66 p65 p64
' /plain version (old)
else
4 16  p61 p69 p68 p62
4 16  p63 p68 p67 p64
4 16  p64 p67 p66 p65
4 16  p51 p56 p69 p61
4 16  p56 p67 p68 p69
4 16  p56 p55 p66 p67
end if
'ACROSS
4 16  p2 p3 p53 p52
4 16  p1 p51 p61 p11
4 16  p12 p62 p63 p13
4 16  p11 p61 p62 p12
if h>1 then
4 16  p4 p7 p57 p54
4 16  p7 p8 p58 p57
end if
'if a=1 then
'' plain version (old)
'4 14  p14 p64 p65 p15
'4 16  p5 p15 p65 p55
'' /plain version (old)
'else
'4 13  p15 p65 p66 p16
'4 16  p5 p16 p66 p55
'end if
'
0 inner frame
1 16  0 (y21+y22)/2 -10  x21 0 0  0 0 (y21-y22)/2  0 5 0  box4.dat
if a=0 then
p13 p14
p14 p15
p63 p64
p64 p65
end if
4 16  p13 p21  p22 p14
4 16  p63 p64  p72 p71
4 16  p13 p63 p71 p21
4 16  p14 p22 p72 p64
'2 24  0 14 0 p15
0 outer frame
1 16  0 (y31+y32)/2 -10  0-x31 0 0  0 0 (y31-y32)/2  0 3 0  box4.dat
0 front frame
4 16  p31 p32 p42 p41
4 16  p81 p91 p92 p82
4 16  p31 p41 p91 p81
4 16  p32 p82 p92 p42
4 16  p3 p4 p34 p33
4 16  p53 p83 p84 p54
4 16  p3 p33 p83 p53
4 16  p4 p54 p84 p34
'end
for i=10-x to x-10 step 20
stud2.dat i 0 0
next i
if g=1 then
0 glass
'1 47 0 ((y-7)+y32)/2 -4  x13 0 0  0 0 ((y-7)-y32)/2  0 -1 0  box.dat
1 47 0 ((y-7)+y14)/2 -4  x13 0 0  0 0 ((y-7)-y14)/2  0 -1 0  box.dat
'1 16  0 (y31+y32)/2 -10  0-x31 0 0  0 0 (y31-y32)/2  0 3 0  box4.dat
end if
p4 p8
p54 p58
'
'
if a=0 then
p15 p16
p65 p66
end if
4 16  p5 p15 p65 p55


if w>2 then o=o*2
if o=0 then
4 16  p4 p5 p55 p54
4 16  p14 p64 p65 p15
end if
if o=1 then
1 16  0 0 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4edge.dat
1 16  0 0 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4ndis.dat
1 16  0 y14 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4edge.dat
1 16  0 y14 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4ndis.dat
1 16  0 y14 -4  1 0 0  0 0-y14 0  0 0 1  4-4cyli.dat
4 16  p4 p5  1 0 -3  1 0 -5
4 16  p54 -1 0 -5  -1 0 -3  p55
4 16  p4 1 0 -5  -1 0 -5  p54
4 16  p5 p55  -1 0 -3  1 0 -3
4 16  p14  1 y14 -5  1 y14 -3  p15
4 16  p64 p65 -1 y14 -3  -1 y14 -5
4 16  p15  1 y14 -3  -1 y14 -3  p65
end if
if o=2 then
1 16  x-20 0 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4edge.dat
1 16  x-20 0 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4ndis.dat
1 16  x-20 y14 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4edge.dat
1 16  x-20 y14 -4  -1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4ndis.dat
1 16  x-20 y14 -4  1 0 0  0 0-y14 0  0 0 1  4-4cyli.dat
1 16  20-x 0 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4edge.dat
1 16  20-x 0 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4ndis.dat
1 16  20-x y14 -4  1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4edge.dat
1 16  20-x y14 -4  -1 0 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  4-4ndis.dat
1 16  20-x y14 -4  1 0 0  0 0-y14 0  0 0 1  4-4cyli.dat
4 16  p4 p5  x-19 0 -3  x-19 0 -5
4 16  p54 19-x 0 -5  19-x 0 -3  p55
4 16  p4 x-19 0 -5  19-x 0 -5  p54
4 16  p5 p55  19-x 0 -3  x-19 0 -3
4 16  21-x 0 -3  21-x 0 -5  x-21 0 -5  x-21 0 -3
4 16  p14  x-19 y14 -5  x-19 y14 -3  p15
4 16  p64 p65 19-x y14 -3  19-x y14 -5
4 16  p15  x-19 y14 -3  19-x y14 -3  p65
4 16  21-x y14 -3  x-21 y14 -3  x-21 y14 -5  21-x y14 -5
end if
g=g*o
? " 0 " g
if g=1 then
1 47  0 y14 -4  1 0 0  0 -1 0  0 0 1  4-8sphe.dat
end if
if g=2 then
1 47  20-x y14 -4  1 0 0  0 -1 0  0 0 1  4-8sphe.dat
1 47  x-20 y14 -4  1 0 0  0 -1 0  0 0 1  4-8sphe.dat
end if
'2 4  0 y 20  p66
0

end



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: Attn: Chris Dee
 
(...) OK - I'll take a look at this and post a follow-up. (...) Yes - I saw you posted those to lugnet. Are they in a state to post on the Parts Tracker? Although I suspect we will struggle to get these certified through the normal means, as I (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)

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