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I have enourmous mail problem right now. Here the reply to your mail: I'm glad that anything happens with the classic windows I love so much. But right now, I can't be so much of help due to much work. Here's the latest lds - I think... The headers (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Attn: Chris Dee
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(...) OK - I'll take a look at this and post a follow-up. (...) Yes - I saw you posted those to lugnet. Are they in a state to post on the Parts Tracker? Although I suspect we will struggle to get these certified through the normal means, as I (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Classic Windows
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(...) As I dont have any solid-stud classic windows, can anyone please clarify whether these had the "top holes" between the outer pair of studs, to hold the glass in place. (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows
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(...) I have generated the DAT files for all the single pane classic windows up to 1x4x2. Now I could really do with some assistance to clarify which versions really exist. I have generated a quick reference page at (URL) reply to this message with (...) (20 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows
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(...) to (...) versions (...) if you (...) I was looking on the quick reference page and there are three windows type missing from that list. Maybe you have them on another list? I have 4 pieces of 453cc01 (red), and one piece of 453bc01 (red), 2 (...) (20 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows
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(...) Thanks for your response. (...) Thanks, these are already confirmed from my collection. So far the reference page contains only those sizes up to 1x4x2 - the larger ones already exist in the official library (see below) and although in need of (...) (20 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Classic Windows Type a: Solid Studs
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(Let's keep this thread for inventories and discussion on solid studded classic doors and windows) Inventory from my collection: 27a solid stud, long ledge, hole, no glass(1): confirmed! 7026a solid studs, long ledge, hole, no glass(1): confirmed! (...) (20 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Classic Windows Type c: Short Ledge
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My theory is that Samsonite (and maybe some more non-Danish plants?) made the without holes version of the classic windows. Also, Samsonite launced their version of 29c, 29c, and 27c without glass. Plesae correct me if O'm mistaken. I have a bunch (...) (20 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) I have 3 variants of 646*.dat I think: 646ac01 solid stud, holes, long ledge, glass about 66 ldu wide 646bc01 hollow stud, holes, long ledge, glass about 66 ldu wide 646cc01 hollow stud, no holes, long ledge, glass 112 ldu wide 646a/b: Holes (...) (20 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) Tore, The variants of the shutter window you describe have been discussed before: (URL) rest of that thread is also interesting in regards to classic windows. Hope that helps, Clark (20 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) Oh dear, oh dear! Just as I thought I was getting to understand something, everything turns out to be much more complicated. It really saddens me to see that appearantly it wasn't just Samsonite that sold windows without glasses. Pop went my (...) (20 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) Thanks - I had forgotten about Gary Istok's dissertations on the subject of Classic Windows. Regarding 646 (1x6x2 with Shutters)<QUOTE> Here is what I have (with counts in parethesis): Full Stud windows with sills (and 2 small holes on top): (...) (20 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) <SNIP> (...) The images for the proposed 646 (1x2x6 with Shutters) varients are now on the reference page. (URL) (20 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows - Forget About 604a
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There's no way this door was made in the CA era. Instead of "unknown", is there someway we could mark the "confirmed to never have existed" state? Just looking for a better way to put it... /Tore (20 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Classic Windows: 32c - Not yet confirmed
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(...) stud, no hole. All of them right. It seems too many to be coincidential... /Tore (20 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I'm not sure what you are saying here. 32.dat is the left (hinged) door with the knob on the right. Do you mean you have 9 copies of (URL) all with no hole? If true, it is certainly strange that all of my type 32 parts do have a hole and all (...) (20 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) With too little sleep, I'm not sure what I'm saying either... :) Let me see... I have 9 copies of 33cc01 and no copy of 32c[c01] I have lots of 32bc01 and 33bc01, I won't even count them. Then I have two or more copies of 33ac01 but no 32ac01 (...) (20 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) Following the naming scheme discussed here, the full set of LDraw files for the classic windows and their glass from 1x1x1 up to 1x6x2 has now been posted to the Parts Tracker. Please see the review summary (URL) which should help to manage (...) (18 years ago, 17-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Here's my latest "dissertation" on the classic windows..... :-) (URL) Istok (18 years ago, 17-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) Chris, Thanks for continuing work on this 'project'. Actually, I appreciate everyone involved in this effort. You mentioned discussion of a naming scheme. I don't see (in this thread) where that was discussed. If you could point me in the (...) (18 years ago, 18-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) (Details snipped) By naming scheme, I meant file-naming scheme. I didn't detect that the descriptions were too long unitl I tried to post them to the Parts Tracker, and wasn't that happy with how I ended up abbreviating them. At a first glance (...) (18 years ago, 20-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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| | Re: Classic Windows
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(...) Sorry to take over 2 years to answer this, but I never visit lugnet.cad..... Only the recent posts to this thread made me view the entire thread. All solid stud windows are otherwise identical to the "long ledge" variety, and that includes the (...) (18 years ago, 20-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows
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(...) OK, I was just studying the differences between the solid stud classic windows/doors, and the hollow stud variety. And I found another difference.... If you take hollow stud classic windows/doors, and lay them face down, you will see that the (...) (18 years ago, 20-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows
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(...) Thanks, Gary, That has also been pointed out earlier, but since it doesn't affect the function or "behaviour" af the parts, those differences will be neglected in LDraw. /Tore (18 years ago, 20-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: Classic Windows
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(...) Thanks - that's what we concluded - and how they have been modelled. (...) Hmm - I'll try and take that it into account. (...) Point taken. (...) Thanks, Chris (18 years ago, 21-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Classic Windows: Variants of 646*.dat
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(...) .. and now they're fixed. Chris (18 years ago, 21-Apr-06, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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