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Subject: 
Petition against permanent color changes
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general, lugnet.announce
Followup-To: 
lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:36:06 GMT
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(canceled)



Message has 50 Replies:
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) -I consider myself a fairly openminded individual, but this definintely falls into the "it's been done that way forever, don't change it now" column. I think this is the single worst move the company has EVER made, up to and including Galidor. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote: [snip] (...) I'm not here for the money issue. I consider my lego as a stress reliever, not as an investment :) (...) it's not that the old dark gray was realistic for the rails, but, imagine the rails with (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
As I mentioned elsewhere I can't fathom why TLG thought it worthwhile to create a severe compatibility issue just because some focus group said grey should look more cheerful. Not only will this cause a lot of headaches to me personally on a very (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Andrzej M. Szlaga, 24. -- shgg. (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Replacing my current inventory with the new gray color is impossible until these parts will be available in the new color: (11 URLs) And not to mention many classic space parts (...) Niels Karsdorp, 29 (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
If you dare, write to them!!!! As I have seen, petition runs here on LUGNET. Many people are thrilled some way. There is also feeling of betrayal and some craving that TLG doesn't listen to AFOL's alhough it's 5% of the market. If you dare, spend 80 (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
I've attempted to consolidate the list of names from throughout this petition thread. (...) The list so far: (Please forgive me if I've missed anyone!) (...) Christopher Phillips, 38 I've already commented elsewhere. Let's just say I won't be (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Good point. I'll have to join Ondrew's camp, as it seems he has given this much logical thought with supporting arguments (and not went into profane rants and raves like some others (we can all figure out who the worst ones are). I have not (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
I agree. James Wilson, 39 see my (URL) poll #170> on the same matter. (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote: (snip) (...) (snip) Ya know, anyone with $4000 worth of the now-so-called "muddy" grey parts oughtta be able to build any sized sidewalk they wanted to. And Jake's mentioned a prospect of parts packs in the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
The four of us in our very LEGO household use mass quantities of light gray and dark gray - we buy more bulk bricks and plates in these two colors than all others combined. Changing them will certainly affect us a lot! (Annoy is a better word. And I (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
To TLG: Please don't permanently change the light and dark grey colors. I *like* the muddiness. Who responded to this anyway in the market research? Parents of children? Kids themselves? They don't buy bulk amounts of the two colors of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Changing the color of light grey Lego components is like removing the cornerstone in a building. Children care little about the exact shade of a color and a lot about the shape and content of parts offered. They are more interested in the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Count me in amongst people COMPLETELY AGAINST this color replacement. This is the WORST move in Lego history, yes even worse then Galidor. Stephane Simard Owner of approx. 65000 Lego parts (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Greg Muri, 32 The corporate marketing speech that Jake posted is a total crock. I will not be purchasing any new sets that contain these colors. Honestly I am still unsure if I will continue Lego as a hobby at all. TLG did such a wonderful job (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)  
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Seth McCarus, 26 (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Ken Koleda, 39 (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Count me in, At least, LEGO should have made a POLL of some kind for their faithful and loyal consumers to vote for such a change... Yes, we might move on, but also we should not accept every thing that LEGO throw at us.. Remember, when a lot (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
consider it signed Esger (20 years ago, 19-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> I agree. Keep the old colors. Jason Ellis - 28 (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Soren Roberts, 18. This is not good. Not good at all. (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Matt Chiles, 32 I was considering entering a dark age as far as buying new sets since I already have more Lego than anyone needs. This will push me into it. :( (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Bob Hayes, 39 I AGREE THAT NEW COLORS ARE GREAT BUT REPLACING CURRENT COLORS IS A BAD IDEA. I just bought the new mini Star Destroyer set nice little set, nice new colors, but I want the old light grey and dark grey! I would be happy with just the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) I've explained my feelings elsewhere. But two things i didn't mention i will do for sure: 1. Write to Lego telling about my disliking of color change; 2. STOP buying sets with this new colours. Oddly enough, i think i'll check Peeron first. Or (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
I'll add my name to the list: Tim Courtney, 21 I called Consumer Affairs today to voice my extreme dissatisfaction about this as well. I'm not overly optimistic any of this will change what is, but we'll see. -Tim (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Add me to the list. Jamie Neufeld,28 (URL) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Harvey Henkelman, 28 (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) OK, add me to the list: Erik Boons from Holland, almost 32 "Come on people, we need at least a few thousand more!" (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Rick Clark, 34 (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes (+ new words)
 
I guess we gave up on inline replying long ago, oh well. Might I suggest some new nomenclature for the new colors? Something we need to think about when creating a name standard to call the new colors is that the name needs to be as short as (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Ditto-Ken (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Sven Moritz Hein, 17 (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Adrian Egli, 34 (in about a week) I just want to pass along a little story- It was 1979 and (I believe) I went to a K-Mart not far from my home to buy space set #452 Mobile Tracking Station ((URL)) and when I got it I discovered I just got my first (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) Please add Aaron F. West age 30, father of three children and advocate of coffee tables featuring LEGO bricks. I'd like to add my voice to this. I have purchased nearly 400,000 LEGO building bricks since I first came to love the building toy. (...) (20 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)  
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Ondrew, Count me in. TLG should definately go back to the old colors. Changing standard colors like this severly undermines the part interchangeability which is the cornerstone of the Lego system. - Brian Williams, age 27 (20 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
I AGREE THAT NEW COLORS ARE GREAT BUT REPLACING CURRENT COLORS IS A BAD IDEA. Ralph Döring, 32 I really liked the introduction of very light grey in the LEGO mosaic. Why didn't TLG use it in any other sets ? Or did I miss them ? With more shades of (...) (20 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Count me in. Christian Allred, 28. New colours are fine, but PLEASE don't replace old standards! (20 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) I'm 28... woopdee really, but what about if we convert our eyes to black and white? ;) that could solve loads of problems :D Mel (sometimes, ya just gotta 'ave fun) (20 years ago, 22-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) I agree with this. Not so much for the investment factor, but because I think if the old colours were good until now then they are good, period. There's a use for all of the shades... Pedro Silva (aged 21) (20 years ago, 22-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
I don't mind new colors but I really don't like changing existing ones. It screws everything up! The point of collecting something is to continue adding to it, not having to start over again. I'm 21, and have been collecting Lego for 16 years. And I (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Michael Bosch, 29. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (20 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
I agree that the new colors are great, but replacing current colors is a bad idea. Age: 30 (20 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
Hello! (...) I disagree that new colours are a great idea, at least in general. I'm getting confused by all those new colours available in only few parts. I completely agree, though, that replacing old colours with new colours is a bad idea. (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) I recommend we drum up media attention, like what happened when Crayola changed their crayon colors a few years ago. How's this for a headline: LEGO replaces classic "Gray" and "Dark Gray" colors with "Ash" and "Gunmetal". In a cost cutting (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
(...) I am 35 and have no clue what you are talking about but I can still say that color change is BAD. I too have way too much invested in my existing colors and changes would likely result in my just giving up LEGO for good. -paul (20 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
I just got my first two sets with the new colors. While they are nice improvements, I must say that it does cause a problem with the bricks that I already have. I wish I just had 4000+ dollars of the old colors. I have a lot more. So probably I will (...) (20 years ago, 27-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Petition against permanent color changes
 
snip (...) Add my name. Mike Kollross, 32. As an AFOL I have been a champion for toy I thought could do no wrong (Galidor, ect aside). Apart from the odd product line I have supported Lego and sung its praises at Train shows and mall shows ect. I (...) (20 years ago, 28-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)

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