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| | | | | Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) yours will not work for anyone else or even for you after your session/context expires. Deja is making it really hard to give references to particular posts, not like it used to be in the old days before they realised they had to make money. I (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes —James Powell
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| | | | | (...) I'm in the "we don't need the NMRA" Camp too. I'm a member of 2 independent clubs (The Platelayers, and The Gangers) which are members of BRMNA, but BRMNA is far looser a group than NMRA. (as is the UK overgroup, HMRS). Having been to enough (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) I think the competitions at the shows are a separate issue from the value of the organization itself. The value I see from the NMRA is exposure to the model railroading hobby as a whole, and the potential growth of our segment of the hobby, (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) I was never formally associated with the NMRA, although I grew up with model trains (my dad had a Marklin table layout) along side of LEGO. Never really remember seeing a LEGO train until about 1986. But as far as the NMRA goes, here is my (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | Re: Train Purity (was Got NMRA? (was.... —Dan Parker
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| | | | | | | In lugnet.trains.org, John Neal writes: ....whether or not someone would accept non-LEGO (...) Hey, the concept of 'purity' itself could be greatly debated. What's the difference between string supplied in the Pirate sets and track used for train (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Train Purity (was Got NMRA? (was.... —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Wow, Dan, I am pleased and surprised by your response. For some reason, I got the feeling that the PNLTC would be "pure" to the end, no matter what the outcome (or perhaps yours is a minority voice?). I have a feeling that the sentiments of (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Train Purity (was Got NMRA? (was.... —Dan Parker
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| | | | | | | | | | I may well be a unique voice within PNLTC but one never knows..... Actually, PNLTC is nearly 30 members now and thus many opinions are represented. We concur on many issues. Btw, I view it as currently convenient to model 6- wides (maybe it's the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Train Purity (was Got NMRA? (was.... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yes. I'd do it. I'd support it. I just wouldn't *like* it as much. But I'm much less pure than I was. If someone made a viable DCC kit that was installable by a guy who usually picks up the wrong end of the soldering iron, I'm there. If (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Train Purity (was Got NMRA? (was.... —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) Wouldn't you also go for wheels? Howabout an uncoupling ramp to go with the Kadee couplers (hey, I want nothing less than the best for couplers, if were going to go non-LEGO there, let's do it right). In some ways, the things I see most likely (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Train Purity (was Got NMRA? (was.... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) <snip> (...) Yes. My list was an e.g. not exhaustive. (...) if (...) Maybe... is Kadee that incompetent of a mold maker though? I do know of at least one example where TLC might have made something for someone else but that's all I can say (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Train Purity (was Got NMRA? (was.... —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) if (...) Yea, no reason Kadee couldn't do the box themselves. The advantage I was thinking of them basically doing a joint thing is that it would be more attractive to purists since it would now basically have TLC's blessing (and probably say (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | Even though I agree that we (LTCs) don't "need" the NMRA, I do enjoy attending the meetings here locally. I find it very educational and really pick up a lot of good ideas that I might have missed. I do understand that a good bit of the topics and (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) I might be able to manage one in white and grey, using sun discolored pieces. Frank (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) No matter what TLC does, if a third party manufacturer stepped in with a quality product, I would abandon purity in a minute. I don't think I'm the only one either. I think track, wheels, and couplers are the area most ripe for non-TLC (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | A funny thing happened while I was reading this thread. I got a call from the local chapter of the NMRA, the SER-Piedmont Division. They called and asked if I would do a workshop/presentation on LEGO trains at their December meeting. I thought that (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) Cool! If you have any 4.5V or 12V stuff, you might want to bring it and do 10-15 minutes on the history of LEGO trains. I'd also bring any recent stock trains that you have, and some MOCs. Print out a variety of Track Designer plans to show (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:G1Iuqt.EF2@lugnet.com... (...) December (...) to (...) stock (...) other (...) that the (...) think (...) (gee, (...) extra (...) it). Of (...) make (...) creations (...) I'll defiantly start (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Defiantly? Are you expecting armed resistance from the Lionel camp? :-) seriously, your outlined approach seems spot on. ++Lar (who has been getting better at resisting the urge to pounce on typos but this one was TOO funny) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Nice job. Make sure you bring lots of plates and slopes and small bits, if you just bring 2x4 bricks and some wheels they won't be impressed by what they are able to create. Except for boxcars, train cars just don't *use* many bricks qua (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? (was Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes) —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G1IyAx.Lrw@lugnet.com... (...) December (...) to (...) you (...) are (...) (clips, (...) stripe, 4 (...) in (...) parts, (...) Well that would be just cruel to take only bricks...I'll (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | (...) I think you should contact LEGO directly and ask if they have any sort of 'presentation' materials you could use. This could end up being a thread all its own - "What should James do to impress the NMRA folks?" :-) JohnG, GMLTC (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | (...) Thats a good idea, matter of fact I had put contacting LEGO on my list of things to do for the presentation. I'm open to suggestions for the presentation, I have a pretty good outline in my head, now I just need to start putting it together. I (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | | (...) Here are some of the features I would point out to people when I was working at the LEGO Imagination Center: Ease of track connection - it simply snaps together. Reliable - trains will run for hours non-stop. Flexible - because you can use (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's good advice, J-1, except for the last part....I bet those guys would get a kick out of it because now it's starting to get up their alley (Besides, an hour is a loooong time to talk...;-) And why not include a 4 wide and 14 wide? (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | (...) in (...) so (...) together! (...) get a (...) hour (...) I was planning on at mentioning the 6 vs 8 wide "debate", so that the people there know that the LEGO train community has it's own internal infractions just like many of the other scales (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —Dan Parker
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| | | | | | In lugnet.trains.org, John Gerlach writes:<snip>What should James do to (...) PNLTC invariably conducts workshops at venues, especially GATS as they pay $10 a session and it's a gimme. We call it "Care and Feeding of LEGO-brand Trains." Spend 5 (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | (...) Thats a great idea for a clinic, maybe after I do my presentation for NMRA I can scale it down and make a clinic out of it for future shows...cool. I'm also thinking of taking a laptop and LCD projector so I can display some images from past (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Wow. From the sound of all of these excellent suggestions, I'm sure it will be a very interesting presentation! *And* Powerpoint?....I may have to book a flight and attend myself! :-) -John (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Ya, you might learn something. ++Lar (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Hey, pal, you could learn a thing or two from James yourself. IMO his website ( (URL) ) is the nicest looking LEGO train site on the net; not like that monster of confusion located at: (URL) <g,d,&r> -John (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Touche. A well placed arrow. I ought to dump that whole unsorted mess and start over. However, that's not HIS website is it? Else *you* get a reaming for the GMLTC site, a pathetic rag of a limp, unfinished work. (as we know, the GMLTC would (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'd rather build too, but it's hard to sneak my bricks here into the office and build, that fine sound rattling ABS always gives me away. (...) And the check book behind it... (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Got website? —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | | | (...) If the *entire* GMLTC were into self promotion as much as some members are, we'd have a bigger web site than LUGNET... JohnG, GMLTC (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Thank you. Don't be so hard on yourself <removing tongue in cheek to type rest of post> (...) Easy cowboy, or someone might think you have your "J"s mixed up..... (...) ?? I'm all ears.. -John (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Got NMRA? —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | (...) Somewhere in all the tangents of this thread I forgot to thank John for the praise of the NGLTC site, glad you like it. jt (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| | | | | | Re: New Interurban/Trolley model, perfect for those downtown scenes —Mike Poindexter
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