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Re: IOLTC Update
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Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:24:46 GMT
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > I didn't realize LD had asked for this organization... If it's North
> > > America only, would it be better for it to be the NAOLTC?
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> Whoa...this is heavy.
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> Am I the only one who finds this extremely disturbing?
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> Mike,
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> Who at LD made the request that it be limited to North American groups?
Steve mentioned that NA was how it should start, it would/will not be a
permanent state.
> Why would they make such a strange request? (If they didn't give a • reason,
> why didn't they?)
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> Who at LD made the request for the organization in the first place?
I don't know, Steve will have to answer that question.
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> > As I understand, it will eventually be a global thing, they just asked • to
> > start with NA for now.
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> I'm getting a rather uneasy gut feeling here. When you say, "As I
> understand, it will...", is that understanding from talking to someone at
> LEGO or from train people in the AFOL community?
I have not spoken with anyone at LEGO, Steve has. I have had some e-mail
communication with LD but it is specific to a show we are doing here in
Raleigh in June. I am helping Steve out with this because he asked for help
and I had access to a mailing list manager.
> Unless I'm just paranoid[1], it almost sounds as if LEGO desires to set up • a
> global train organization itself. If that is the case, then time is • short.
> The community needs to act fast to form a *global* and *international* • LEGO
> Train Club organization of its own -- by the community, for the • community --
> before LEGO does.
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> Please don't let the organization be NA-only without a *full* explanation
> from LEGO...and even if it ends up being NA-only (let's say that LEGO gave
> some compelling reasons, for example), please don't close the door to • there
> being an international organization as well. Don't let LEGO get there
> first. That would be bad. I can't emphasize this enough.
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> --Todd
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> [1] Not that there's anything wrong with that; it's not whether or not • your
> paranoid that matters, it's whether you're paranoid enough. :-)
The intent is not to limit it to NA but like lots of things, you need a
solid baseline to start.
I suspect that 99% of the communication on the lists will be related to
working out issues with GATS, Greenburg, or some other show promoter.
Greenburg has obviously seen value in promoting a LEGO layout, it is top
billing on their flyer. It makes sense to share best practices in a forum
that is not on display for public viewing (others may feel differently but
that is my opinion).
Re-reading my post from yesterday I think I emphasized the LD involvement
too much. Please don't get paranoid about this effort, in my opinion this
effort is no different than local groups moving some of their dicussion out
of lugnet.org.abc.xyz onto a mailing list. For one reason or another, they
have decided that they prefer that some parts of their communication not be
visible on LUGNET.
Mike
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http://www.nclug.net - North Carolina LEGO Users Group
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| (...) OK. What kind of "involvement" would there be from LD then? (...) I can totally understand and respect that. That just makes sense too. --Todd (23 years ago, 3-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
| | | Re: IOLTC Update
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| (...) Huh? You have to be kidding. In every train show that WAMALUG has participated in, the promoter *begged* us to put up a display. There have never been any issues that I am aware of. Is such a group necessary? Is it even desiarable, considering (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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| (...) Whoa...this is heavy. Am I the only one who finds this extremely disturbing? Mike, Who at LD made the request that it be limited to North American groups? Why would they make such a strange request? (If they didn't give a reason, why didn't (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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