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Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter)
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Date: 
Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:01:37 GMT
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I've attempted a 5-wide container to place on my Cargo Sprinter or the standard
LEGO road trucks with trailers that hold the "normal" 4 wide by 16 long LEGO
design containers.

This 5-wide container can stack above or below 4 wide containers.

It seems pretty versatile.  But, the mounting points on the bottom of the
5-wide are inset by 1/2 stud; this interupts the smoothness of the container
"box".  But, the standard LEGO design 4-wide containers have discontinuity
along their base, as well, so maybe it doesn't matter?

http://www.ee.nmt.edu/~jmathis/cargosprinter.html

Sorry, I can't visualize the drawing shown below.  Maybe I've duplicated what
has already been done?

later,
James Mathis

In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz writes:
SRC wrote:

In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.trains, Mike Poindexter writes:
Containers are not as wide as trains!  Sure, they are close, but with • trains
being 10' wide, represented as 6 studs, then an 8' wide container should • be
4.8 studs wide.  If you round it to the nearest stud, then it would be 5
wide by 12long for an HCL and 5 x 24for an FCL.

Containers are not as wide as trains and never should be.

Agreed. However the 4 wides just look funny. They're not even tall enough • for
a minifig to stand up in, and we know how short those guys are. :-)

Good one :-)   I agree the four wides look too small, but the six wides look
too big.  I suspect that on an eight wide car, the six wides would look • right,
but the photos I saw of some of the ambassador cars with six on six just
didn't work IMO.

Five wide would be the way to go yes, but is it practical?  The Milton
customer side of me says "Yeah Five", while the builder side of me says
"Hmmmm, I wonder".  A five wide could be placed on a standard
container car meant for four, but would slide half a stud to the outside
of the corners.  I run _Express_ cargo.  :-)

One way to do this would be to build the bottom layer as 4 wide
(actually, probably 2 or 3 plate heights). If one didn't mind having to
slightly modify 4-wide containers to work on your car designed for
5-wide containers, and don't mind having the 4-wide containers sitting
1/2 stud forward or backward of the position for a 5 wide container, one
could use 1x2 tiles w/center stud instead of the 2x2 tile. The 5 wide
container would then sit on this stud in the normal position for a stud
to fit into the bottom of a plate. A 4-wide container would have a tube
on the underside sit on the stud, thus centering the container between
the width of the car, but also sliding it forward or back 1/2 stud. The
only mod to the existing 4-wide containers would be to put a 2x2 plate
on the underside at each end, sort of like this (bottom view):

+-----+........................+-----+
|     |                        |     |
|  +--+--+                  +--+--+  |
|  |     |                  |     |  |
+--+  O  |                  |  O  +--+
|  |     |                  |     |  |
|  +--+--+                  +--+--+  |
|     |                        |     |
+-----+........................+-----+

The "O" on the 2x2 plate is the tube which will fit on the stud on the
1x2 w/center stud.

The bottom of the 5-wide container would look like (16 stud long shown
for example):

  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
+  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +
+-----------------------+-----------------------+
|                       |                       |
+-----+-----------------+-----------------+-----+
|     |                                   |     |
|  O  |                                   |  O  |
|     |                                   |     |
|  O  |                                   |  O  |
|     |                                   |     |
+-----+-----------------+-----------------+-----+
|                       |                       |
+-----------------------+-----------------------+



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter)
 
(...) standard (...) The 5-wide container looks great on the 6-wide train. Looks like 5-wide may be the winner. (...) Sorry, ASCII art just doesn't work well anymore, no one ever used fixed space fonts anymore. My method was different, but your (...) (24 years ago, 31-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter)
 
(...) standard (...) Your idea and Frank's are different. I think yours may be more economical of parts. To be even MORE economical on the 1x2 with center top stud part which is a somewhat hard to come by part, consider plugging in 1xn plates into (...) (24 years ago, 31-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter)
 
(...) standard (...) 5-wide is definitely the best looking solution. I think it might look even a little better if you build them not in the same height as the 6-wides... "Leg Godt!" Ben (24 years ago, 31-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)

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  Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter)
 
(...) One way to do this would be to build the bottom layer as 4 wide (actually, probably 2 or 3 plate heights). If one didn't mind having to slightly modify 4-wide containers to work on your car designed for 5-wide containers, and don't mind having (...) (24 years ago, 29-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)

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