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| | | This is a version 1 design study for the German DB Cargo Sprinter container train set. Very compressed compared to its real-life counterpart, it looks a bit odd in relation. But, I think it imparts some familiarity. I have tried to use a minimum of (...) (24 years ago, 25-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —Christopher Masi
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| | | | | James, Looks cool. I had thought about using one of those windows studs forward, but I couldn't make it look right. Go figure, it looks great on your model. Two quick questions: (1) why the garage doors? and (2) why the asymmetric windows on the cab (...) (24 years ago, 25-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —James Mathis
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks, but this window orientation gets credit to someone other than me. I've seen it used this way on someone else's train engine before. My sincere apologies for not remembering by name you who have previously showcased this studs-forward (...) (24 years ago, 26-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —James Powell
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| | | | | (...) One of the UK lines has tried something of the same sort, don't remember details except that since they are relatively compact, they used some MoW equipment as power, and a couple of flatcars as the loadcarriers (something like 2 power units, (...) (24 years ago, 26-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —Simon Denscombe
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| | | | | | (...) I can't remember that, Rail Magazine had a review of the Cargo Sprinter, saying how the cost compares to lorries. The closest that RailTrack (who run all of Britain's track signalling and stations(1)) have got to the CS is the MPV (...) (24 years ago, 26-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —James Powell
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| | | | | | (...) etc. I think it was in Rail, just really a mockup that they took for a couple of trial runs, a comment that under unit engines wouldn't work in the UK (because you only have 1.5' for the engine in the UK loading gauge) and 2 photos...it was 2 (...) (24 years ago, 26-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —Harvey Henkelman
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| | | | | (...) months (...) Your Cargo Sprinter train is impressive. A couple of years ago (before I discovered the wonderful world of LEGO Trains), I debated converting to Marklin HO scale. The first set I considered buying?...You guessed it, the Cargo (...) (24 years ago, 26-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —Simon Denscombe
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| | | | | (...) The problem is the length of the first car - how long is it? In real life it would take a half container which in LEGO 6-wide container terms would be around 12 to 14 studs long. I think you've got the main part of the cab there which is the (...) (24 years ago, 26-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | James does it again... (...) Nice model James. VERY However I would say, why compress it? Try it with the power unit able to carry 2 containers... (although actually, if you use the standard 4x8 container, I suspect it WILL carry two..) So what I (...) (24 years ago, 27-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Mike Poindexter
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| | | | | | Containers are not as wide as trains! Sure, they are close, but with trains being 10' wide, represented as 6 studs, then an 8' wide container should be 4.8 studs wide. If you round it to the nearest stud, then it would be 5 wide by 12long for an HCL (...) (24 years ago, 28-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Agreed. However the 4 wides just look funny. They're not even tall enough for a minifig to stand up in, and we know how short those guys are. :-) I'll probably just lump it, but I'll continue to whinge (an OZ word!) about it nonetheless. Would (...) (24 years ago, 28-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I personally am planning on going 6 wide for containers. I guess 5 wide would be a possibility, I really won't be having doors in my containers (the windows w/shutters in the old Maersk truck would be neat to get, and with availability of (...) (24 years ago, 29-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | | (...) Good one :-) I agree the four wides look too small, but the six wides look too big. I suspect that on an eight wide car, the six wides would look right, but the photos I saw of some of the ambassador cars with six on six just didn't work IMO. (...) (24 years ago, 29-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) One way to do this would be to build the bottom layer as 4 wide (actually, probably 2 or 3 plate heights). If one didn't mind having to slightly modify 4-wide containers to work on your car designed for 5-wide containers, and don't mind having (...) (24 years ago, 29-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —James Mathis
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| | | | | | | | I've attempted a 5-wide container to place on my Cargo Sprinter or the standard LEGO road trucks with trailers that hold the "normal" 4 wide by 16 long LEGO design containers. This 5-wide container can stack above or below 4 wide containers. It (...) (24 years ago, 30-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | (...) standard (...) The 5-wide container looks great on the 6-wide train. Looks like 5-wide may be the winner. (...) Sorry, ASCII art just doesn't work well anymore, no one ever used fixed space fonts anymore. My method was different, but your (...) (24 years ago, 31-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) standard (...) Your idea and Frank's are different. I think yours may be more economical of parts. To be even MORE economical on the 1x2 with center top stud part which is a somewhat hard to come by part, consider plugging in 1xn plates into (...) (24 years ago, 31-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | | | | | (...) standard (...) 5-wide is definitely the best looking solution. I think it might look even a little better if you build them not in the same height as the 6-wides... "Leg Godt!" Ben (24 years ago, 31-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —James Powell
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| | | | | | (...) I hate to be the one to point this out, but it should be 5x12 for a TEU. TEU is the base unit for containers, ISO standards are 8'6" (high) x8'(wide) by 20'(long) (if I have it wrong, it is the high and wide mixed up), and everything is based (...) (24 years ago, 29-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —Mike Poindexter
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| | | | | | James Powell <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:G01vM9.9Er@lugnet.com... (...) trains (...) be (...) TEU (...) by (...) but (...) 8' wide and 8'6" high is correct. I suppose that the industry you are in would determine what is (...) (24 years ago, 30-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Container Width (was Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter) —James Powell
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| | | | | | (...) It's the ISO standard, when you see (if you ever have) a container ship listing, it will be for xyz TEU- for example, ASL Sanderling (that cruises between here and somewhere else, Halifax I think) has roughtly 5x8x4.5x2=360 TEU (which is (...) (24 years ago, 31-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —Thomas Cook
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| | | | | Very nice model. I don't know much about Euro Trains, but I think you captured the prototype very well. "James Mathis" <thakius@nmt.edu> wrote in message news:FzvEyn.Ipv@lugnet.com... (...) container (...) in (...) control (...) type (...) color (...) (24 years ago, 28-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —Steve Demlow
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| | | | (...) It's very available in clear these days: just buy a Landspeeder or a Flash Speeder (both of which have lots of other good parts too). Great models as usual, thanks for sharing. Steve (the GMLTC fan of European trains) (24 years ago, 30-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: New MOC: Cargo Sprinter —James Mathis
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| | | | (...) color (...) Oh, yes. That's great! I bought several Flash Speeder sets. I can't believe I forgot it has the window. I was too focused on all the cool green pieces! (...) Thanks. later, James Mathis (24 years ago, 30-Aug-00, to lugnet.trains)
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