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    10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Mike Walsh
   ILTCO has received some images of the new 10183 LEGO Hobby Train. (URL) you are not familiar with the LEGO Hobby Train (aka UTB), you can read some background information in this thread: (URL) first public announcement of the 10183 LEGO Hobby Train (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains) !! 
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Mike Walsh
      "Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:JDowF1.G1y@lugnet.com... (...) I will go ahead and pre-answer one question which I am pretty sure someone will pose: Q: Why are their two versions of the box? A: Like many LEGO sets, (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Pierre Normandin
     (...) Actually, the verbage on the NA box appears in English of course, but also in French and Spanish in smaller caracters. The verbage on the IN box appears in 12 languages, including English, French, Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch... (I will not (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Gianluca Morelli
     What about the motor? The swiss crocodile looks motorized, but there's no motor in the parts list... (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Mike Walsh
      "Gianluca Morelli" <poldoshop@yahoo.it> wrote in message news:JDoyM7.EJH@lugnet.com... (...) The motor is not included in the box. Look closely at this image: (URL) the lower right hand corner there is a picture of a 9v train motor and some track. (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Gianluca Morelli
     (...) Too bad... for 100USD (100EUR here in the old world) it should have a motor... with no motor this set gets too pricey. And I also think that the main image, picturing a motor, is misleading. I'm a bit disappointed. G. (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Michael Zecca
      (...) $100 for 1080 pieces, or a little under 10 cents per piece, seems to be a pretty typical price point.for sets. Since the motors are going for $20 through Factory, that would tack another $20 onto the price of the set...or require dropping (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Don Cox
      (...) So, how many models can be made from this set at the same time, or are we paying $100 for one engine model? -- Don (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Luca Giannitti
      (...) Count the train bases: 3 The windows are 8 1x4x3 and 16 panels 1x2x2 The doors are 4 (2 left and 2 right). You have 3 complete bases but not enough parts to make two waggons and an engine. There are few train windows and trasparent panels. I (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Rich Stehnach
      I would pay $100 just for the right to download 30 sets of building instructions. Come on, people, this is a gold mine. Make it successful and we'll see Ultimate Train Set #2. "9V trains are going away! Wah!!!" "I haven't seen this new set up close (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)  
     
          Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Joseph A. O'Donnell
      (...) Yes! There will probably at least two of these added to our collection. When was the last time we could get a Crocodile for $100 (+ $20 for a motor)...and this one is an even bigger Crocodile? And still have lots of parts left over. Let's do (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Ross Crawford
     (...) Well I agree it is a little misleading even with the little pic with the red X, but I still think there's a pretty good selection of parts for the price. I really hope the cost to Aus isn't 1.5x the cost to the US like most sets on S@H though. (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Ondrew Hartigan
     (...) Looks like a great set for those who travel. I’ll be getting at least one for that purpose and another idea I have. My only gripe is they now count the wheel parts separately: 12 holders 24 wheels and 12 axles for a total of 48 parts that (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Jordan Schwarz
     (...) Compared to the prices of LEGO Factory models, the price point for 10183 seems reasonable to me. The train parts on Factory are quite expensive, causing some of my train creations to average close to 15 cents per brick (and complete trains to (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —John Gerlach
     (...) This is a very nice looking set. I especially like the mix of models shown on the box: diesel & electric; freight & passenger; modern & steamers. The parts list looks to be mostly common pieces, so if someone wants to build a model in a (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —John Neal
      (...) J-1!!!! Don't go! Join me on my 12 wide odyssey! J-2 (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
     
          Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Jason J Railton
      (...) Yes, no need for motors - soon John will be making trains so wide you can sit on them and propel them along with your feet - all the time making "chuff-chuff" and "woo-woo" noises. Then at last we can demonstrate how much the hobby has grown (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
     
          Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —John Neal
      (...) That's funny! True, but funny. BTW, Jason, we in the states don't make "chuff-chuff" noises. We have learned to "peep peep", but that is where we draw the line. It's all about "Woo-woo!" and Choo-choo!", all the while trying to recreate the (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
     
          Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Jason J Railton
       (...) Just so long as stop short of trying to mimic the emission levels... Jason R (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
     
          Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —David Koudys
      In lugnet.trains, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) You *see* it... before you *hear* it... Dave K -for those of you who closed your eyes during that, you missed seeing the plane do a barrel roll... and also hosehead over there did the roll with his (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Luca Giannitti
     (...) That's my complaint. The part list shows a lot of common parts: if I need bricks, there are a lot of great 1000-parts-buckets, but if I want to build a train, I need doors, windows, wheels, large plates and roof parts in large quantities. What (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Elroy Davis
     (...) The price point looks pretty good to me when you start comparing prices to Bricklink. Out of curiosity, I priced out just the train baseplates, doors, and sliding doors, and I was already up to $35 if I bought the parts from Bricklink. That (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Jeffrey Jarvis
     "Me crys" If only other things were not a higher priority right now and I actually had some money to my name. Oh well in a few years. But then again I really don't plan on using train motors in the future..... You will have to wait and see.... ;) (...) (17 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Paulo Renato
     (...) Thanks for the update Mike! For me this is incredible good news! I will certainly buy 2 at least! I'd like to thank much all of the AFOL's committed to this awesome Project and also to the Lego Team involved and the LEGO Company to make this (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Kelly McKiernan
     (...) I'll definitely be picking one of these up. Thanks for the pics, Mike! - Kelly (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Marc Nelson Jr.
     (...) Are the AFOL designers credited? It would be neat to know what designed what. Sounds like a really neat concept, and one that I hope will be extended to other themes. Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Marc Nelson Jr.
      (...) Make that "who designed what." Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Elroy Davis
     (...) I don't know if they are credited anywhere in the set, but there are profiles for a few of the designers here: (URL) -Elroy (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
    
         Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Jason J Railton
     (...) That website is a nice start from LEGO to support the 9V trains, but it seems to take ages for things to happen there. They've linked James Mathis' train models, but what about the other designers they've profiled? Hopefully the 10183 models (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Erik Amzallag
   (...) Hello, My ugly pictures taken at BrickFest 2006 during the presentation. The speed of the presentation was too fast to use the flash, so it explains the poor quality and that some of the first slides are missing. However, there are models (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Mike Walsh
      "Erik Amzallag" <brickerikNOSPAM@free.fr> wrote in message news:JDs6JM.3pJ@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Of the 30 models which were selected for the LHT set, the same 14 appear on the front side of both the International (IN) box and (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Tim David
   (...) From these pics and other sources I have managed to work out 8 of the 10 designers: Holger Mathes James Mathis Tim Gould Christopher Masi Steve Barile Ben Fleskes Jeremy Spurgeon Mike Walsh I think the ninth one is Pierre Normandin and is the (...) (17 years ago, 21-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
   
        Re: 10183 LEGO Hobby Trains on ILTCO —Mike Walsh
    "Tim David" <talltim@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JDt5yE.4BK@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Did you look at the box artwork? I think it will answer your query. :-) Mike (17 years ago, 21-Feb-07, to lugnet.trains)
 

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