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Re: Nominations for a trainset poll
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Tue, 10 May 2005 17:48:40 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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> > Loco: NS late model GE road unit (EMD has been overrepresented between the ATSF
> > warbonnet F and the BNSF GP)... preferably one with radiator flares, I'm not
> > picky about which one. Make sure it has thoroughbred (prancing horse) stickers
> > for the logo, in several sizes.
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> Could you be a bit less obscure with this for the non-USAnians of us, me
> specifically! What do you mean by NS and which road are you refering to?
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> Cheers, Tim
The following is from memory and should get you started. Someone will no doubt
find something to nitpick!!!
NS - Norfolk Southern... one of the "big four" class 1's remaining. Split
Conrail with CSX, the other eastern big four. Rumoured to be potential BNSF
merger partner (which would force UP, the other western big four, and CSX to
merge in response)
GE - General Electric. Number 1 loco builder in the US, displaced EMD. Former
partner with ALCO, but broke away, leading to ALCO's eventual demise, some say
EMD - Once Electro Motive Corporation, then bought by General Motors, to become
Electro Motive Division. Now rumored to be up for sale, perhaps leveraged
buyout?
ATSF - Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe. Predecessor road (with Burlington
Northern) of BNSF and home to the famous "name train" all reserved Super Chief
(as well as the all coach El Capitan) from Chicago to LA.
F - F unit, or "freight" streamlined diesel line from EMD. Starting with the FT
prewar, F's were very common on many roads. Not only used for freight, just as E
units were not only used for passenger. The F is more stubby than the E and has
4 axles while Es have 6. (similarly, the ALCO FA has 4 axles and is more stubby
than its passenger sibling the PA with 6 axles)
The F (and E, and PA, and FA and many other gen 1 diesels) is a streamlined
carbody, and the body has bracing so the frame can be a bit lighter since it
carries some of the load. Contrast with Hood unit (non streamlined, hoods carry
none of the load) and Cowl unit (streamlined, but non load bearing)
BNSF - Burlington Northern Santa Fe, regarded by many as the best run of the big
four... see also ATSF
GP - General Purpose. The GP-7 was a 4 axle freight hood unit introduced by EMD
and gradually supplanted Fs. Contrast with SD (super duty) which is a 6 axle
freight unit. Sometimes known as a Road Switcher to denote that it is suitable
for both switch service (good traction at very low speed, high visibility) and
road service (able to run at higher speeds)
Hope that helps!
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| Thanks for the info, I'm afraid it was a case engaging fingers before google! On the subject of the two main loco manufacturers whats the main design features that help differentiate them? I was looking at photos and although I can see that (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) Could you be a bit less obscure with this for the non-USAnians of us, me specifically! What do you mean by NS and which road are you refering to? Cheers, Tim (20 years ago, 10-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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