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| | | This is EXACTALLY what I said would happen! ((URL) only thing left open by the article is if LEGO will continue the line with new names, but that's not very likely seeing as names in contention are main characters and all. I am so ticked off about (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego) !
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| | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) And rightly so. Shame on TLC for cowtowing to such complete and utter BS. God, how much longer will this total BS "PC" climate last????? *I* better end now before I say something I might regret:-/ -John (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Rich Manzo
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| | | | | | (...) Maybe they are trying to avoid "hurting the feelings" of some tribe somewhere, but perhaps they should consider the hundreds of thousands of kids who will be disappointed that their favorate toy will be gone. (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? —Kyle Beatty
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| | | | | | | (...) The article is not authoritative. Consider just the internal inconsistency of the headline: Lego Halt Use of Some Names with the content. It's not at all clear what is going to be changed _except_ the names of the sets. To which, I gotta say, (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? CRAP? —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | | | | (...) I just thought it was a "crappy " title for the article. <g> (...) Actually the article seems to state that the line is cancelled AND that it will contine in some way. (...) The kiddies? Matt (BTW, those exclamation points were included as (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Dave Low
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| | | | | | (...) Somehow I think the kids will get over it -- BIONICLE is _so_ 2001.[1] In the meantime some of you might like to read the following, (URL) even do a google[2] search for the following: Mataatua Declaration Indigenous Cultural Property Treaty (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.year.2002)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Erik L. Knopp
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| | | | | | (...) that give a little more detail on what's happening (urls below, the AP quotes seem to be from the second one). To me, they seem to indicate the line isn't dead, just the use of Maori words without Maori approval.(They also say that LEGO and (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | | (...) "Maori have stopped international toy maker Lego using Maori names without appropriate consultation. Instead Maori and the toy company are working together to develop a new range which respects Maori." The names are not exclusive. They are (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Brian Kasprzyk
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| | | | | | (...) I am surprised at the attitude being displayed by the Lugnet community over this issue. You are not being very realistic about this whole issue. We live in a country where a woman, on her own accord spills hot coffee on herself and wins a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Uh, troll, I don't think that the indians *owned* this country in the first place to have it "stolen". But this is .debate fodder for which I have not the time or inclination... , yet, when a company, like (...) As many are pointing out (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Dave Low
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| | | | | | | (...) Why is it more absurd than a corporation's claim to a trademark? Note that the Treaty of Waitangi (1840) (URL) acknowledges Maori entitlement to cultural heritage, which includes their language. (URL) LEGO can acknowledge the importance of (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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| | | | | | | | Cultures, words, meanings and ownership (was Was Re: "piffle!" (bowdlerised for your protection) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | John's right, this IS debate fodder. He should have set XFUT, but I will. XFUT o-t.debate and let's keep it out of other groups if it veers into the subject areas... that would be my strong preference and I suspect many others as well. Just a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Erik Olson
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| | | | | (...) Uh... I am reeling. Surely there was a better solution somewhere in the middle. Is this why the video game was cancelled last week? Time to go into denial. Yes, serious denial, and I am not even a Bionicle collector! Of course, there are (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | | | (...) I hadn't even thought of that...CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! (...) I see you really did read those Maori links! Bionicle is currently the bread and butter at LEGO...what are they going to do if they really do pull the entire line? They have invested (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! — Suzanne D. Rich
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| | | | | | | | Tone down the language. -Suz LUGNET Admin (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Most of the rest of this is pretty depressing PCness but I am totally behind this particular idea, where do I send my donations? :-) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Marc Nelson, Jr.
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| | | | | (...) Maybe I can sue LEGO over the Jack Stone line, since the name is obviously borrowed from the Anglo-Saxon "ethnic culture" of which I am a member. I am sick and tired of LEGO's piracy of Anglo-Saxon intellectual property. I mean, where elso did (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —Marlene Spears
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| | | | | | (...) Maybe the Lakota and Cheyenne people should sue Lego for using Native Americans in some of their playsets. Widen the scope and go after Playmobil, too. And Japan should definitely review the cultural sensitivity of the Samurai sets. And the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) heehee Right on, Tukawetse;-) -John (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | You oughta be glad! —David Simmons
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| | | | No more Bionicle?! Be still my breaking heart! That means TLG might have to get back to the business of making sets with bricks! What is the world coming to?! Seriously, cultural appropriation is not something to be treated lightly. Having taken (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | Re: You oughta be glad! —Matthew Gerber
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| | | | | (...) Wow...talk about a delayed reaction. Dave, you might need to check your newsreader...it's showing you articles long after the thread has been dropped... (...) Read further, then post again. That's not what I was on about...and I've already had (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | Re: You oughta be glad! —Benjamin Medinets
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| | | | (...) I think I have to clearly agree with Matthew Gerber on this one. You need to post something a little more current. As for lego stop putting out Bionicle sets isn't true. I think the consensus is that they've agreed to stop using "cultural (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.dear-lego)
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