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Re: Pneumatic Questions
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Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:21:48 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Kevin L. Clague wrote:
   When using traditional pressure only, the force producde by the air pressure on the faces of the pistons is enough to flip a switch.

Just so.
  
Just yesterday someone asked me “If instead of using pressure, you used vaccume” would your walker walk backwards. I’d never thought of this, but it sounds like an interesting concept. My initial reaction was that there would phase issues that would prevent this from working.

No, it wouldn’t walk backwards. To make it work, you’d only have to interchange the hoses at the switches. That’s because a suction force acts in the opposite direction to the traditional compressed air. Your walker will then walk forwards as before, notwithstanding it is now running on vacuum (suction force would be better word).
  
But you are talking about a different case. Lets ask a slightly different question than yours. Could I make a pneumatic engine like Dr. Soh’s that runs purely on vaccume? I think the answer is yes.

Most certainly! Again, you’d only have to interchange the hoses at the switches. Connect the air intake line to your suction source. The old type pump and one-way valve block will do but you’ll have to pump vigorously coz it’s hard to get a decent vacuum with it. Maybe a vacuum cleaner?
  
So the pressure half of the engine has enough power to flip one switch, and the vaccume half of the engine has enough power to flip another switch. Combined then, it would seem that you could make both switches flip.

I believe he wants compressed air on one side and suction on the other side of the piston of a cylinder at the same time to make his engine really go.
  
Let us know how it turns out!

perpetual motion :-)

CSSoh



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(...) This is a good question. When using traditional pressure only, the force producde by the air pressure on the faces of the pistons is enough to flip a switch. Just yesterday someone asked me "If instead of using pressure, you used vaccume" (...) (19 years ago, 17-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)

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