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Re: Where are these survey answers coming from? (was: New Survey up for LEGO)
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Wed, 3 May 2000 14:43:36 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Todd Lehman writes:
> > In lugnet.starwars, Tim Saupé writes:
> > > Guys, it's really pretty simple: my contact has asked not to be revelead
> > > by name or position.
> 
> Tim, wouldn't you agree, that's a very odd request for them to make?  (Not so
> much the name part but the position part.)

No, I don't find it odd at all.  They asked that I don't do it, I respected
that, and it is none of anyone's business anyway.

> > > And I will respect that.  Trust me that they have
> > > given me proof that they are legit, and I would not have features like
> > > "Ask LEGO!" if I wasn't sure that the right people were addressing it.
> 
> So if I happened to casually mention this whole thing to a LEGO IP attorney
> (in a meeting coming up in a couple of weeks), would they know what I was
> talking about?

Perhaps it would help if I knew what you were talking about.

> Can you tell us whether your contact suggested the text "Ask LEGO!" and/or
> "LEGO wants to know..." or whether you came up with that on your own?

I really don't consider this to be your business to know, Todd.  "Ask LEGO"
came from LEGO PR, at their request.  I have made the mistake of saying "LEGO
wants to know" on my own.

> Can you tell us whether your contact gave any reason why LEGO isn't
> conducting this survey or discussion off of their own site www.lego.com ?

I came up with the survey on my own.  I had the contact at LEGO PR, and figured
that if enough people responded, I would pass it on to them, knowing that they
would be interested in the information.  It turned out that LEGO found out I
was doing it, and asked for the info for their Marketing Dept.  I was doing the
work already for them, so why would they duplicate the effort?

> Eric Kingsley writes:
> > If all this is true then thats fine.  What my point is is that with all
> > the secrecy involved your survey lacks a certain amount of credibility in
> > my eyes.  If this person were to reveal themselves and open a discusion
> > with us like Brad Justus has it would add credibility to what you are doing.
> 
> I agree with Eric -- it's often difficult to take information as seriously
> from a clandestine source as from a known source.

It would seem that the two of you are somewhat unique.  Both surveys have
received exceptional success.  As for my credibility, I have stated numerous
times that I run an honest site.  I'm 30 yrs. old, and not in the business of
dealing with the fans and collectors without being completely honest with them.

> > I perfectly understand you not revealing your sources name if that is what
> > they asked for.  It just seems to me that if the person had pull within
> > LEGO and what they were doing in talking to you was legit then they
> > wouldn't have a problem with releasing their name.
> 
> I hope Tim's contact is reading this and is reconsidering his/her desire to
> be so secretive.  It doesn't help credibility or PR.

It doesn't help LEGO's credibility?  Again, I think the two of you are off.  I
don't see this affecting LEGO in any way at all, I simply gathered Marketing
info that I passed on to them.  You are both making a much larger issue out of
this than it is.

> > I do find your survey interesting but the whole "LEGO wants to know" part
> > really takes away from the survey in my opinion without the ability to
> > substantiate it.  I think if you just put the Survey up as just an informal
> > way for people to see a poll of what other people would like to see would
> > be more interesting to me than the whole "Officially Unofficial" way you
> > have advertised the survey.
> 
> I think that could help allay a lot of the confusion.  (Either that or
> "Unofficially Official."  :-)

I am indeed changing the way I word things.  As a webmaster, I need to
advertise things to an extent, but I am becoming less and less worried about
traffic all the time.  My site has been an exceptional success, and I let the
several hundreds of people who check it daily make their own decisions about
what they want to voice their opinion on.  I'm learning.  But the only
confusion I am getting from this, again, is from the two of you.

> > Either way it does not make a hugh difference to me except I don't want to
> > participate with the way things are set up now.  I will still visit your
> > site for the other info you have there because I find it interesting.
> > 
> > All just my 2 cents worth.
> 
> Me too.  :)

I appreciate the two of you tuning in to FBTB.  If you so choose to not
participate in surveys or polls that I run that is obviously your call.  But I
won't lose sleep over it, I have several hundred votes to tabulate anyway :)

Tim



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  Re: Where are these survey answers coming from? (was: New Survey up for LEGO)
 
(...) I don't either -- that's why I wrote "Can you tell us...?" rather than "Please tell us..." (...) That says it all right there. As a Star Wars fan and a LEGO fan, I can now take the survey seriously. Thanks. --Todd (26 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)

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  Re: Where are these survey answers coming from? (was: New Survey up for LEGO)
 
(...) Tim, wouldn't you agree, that's a very odd request for them to make? (Not so much the name part but the position part.) (...) So if I happened to casually mention this whole thing to a LEGO IP attorney (in a meeting coming up in a couple of (...) (26 years ago, 2-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)

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