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Re: Where are these survey answers coming from? (was: New Survey up for LEGO)
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Wed, 3 May 2000 14:43:36 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.starwars, Tim Saupé writes:
Guys, it's really pretty simple: my contact has asked not to be revelead
by name or position.

Tim, wouldn't you agree, that's a very odd request for them to make?  (Not so
much the name part but the position part.)

No, I don't find it odd at all.  They asked that I don't do it, I respected
that, and it is none of anyone's business anyway.

And I will respect that.  Trust me that they have
given me proof that they are legit, and I would not have features like
"Ask LEGO!" if I wasn't sure that the right people were addressing it.

So if I happened to casually mention this whole thing to a LEGO IP attorney
(in a meeting coming up in a couple of weeks), would they know what I was
talking about?

Perhaps it would help if I knew what you were talking about.

Can you tell us whether your contact suggested the text "Ask LEGO!" and/or
"LEGO wants to know..." or whether you came up with that on your own?

I really don't consider this to be your business to know, Todd.  "Ask LEGO"
came from LEGO PR, at their request.  I have made the mistake of saying "LEGO
wants to know" on my own.

Can you tell us whether your contact gave any reason why LEGO isn't
conducting this survey or discussion off of their own site www.lego.com ?

I came up with the survey on my own.  I had the contact at LEGO PR, and figured
that if enough people responded, I would pass it on to them, knowing that they
would be interested in the information.  It turned out that LEGO found out I
was doing it, and asked for the info for their Marketing Dept.  I was doing the
work already for them, so why would they duplicate the effort?

Eric Kingsley writes:
If all this is true then thats fine.  What my point is is that with all
the secrecy involved your survey lacks a certain amount of credibility in
my eyes.  If this person were to reveal themselves and open a discusion
with us like Brad Justus has it would add credibility to what you are doing.

I agree with Eric -- it's often difficult to take information as seriously
from a clandestine source as from a known source.

It would seem that the two of you are somewhat unique.  Both surveys have
received exceptional success.  As for my credibility, I have stated numerous
times that I run an honest site.  I'm 30 yrs. old, and not in the business of
dealing with the fans and collectors without being completely honest with them.

I perfectly understand you not revealing your sources name if that is what
they asked for.  It just seems to me that if the person had pull within
LEGO and what they were doing in talking to you was legit then they
wouldn't have a problem with releasing their name.

I hope Tim's contact is reading this and is reconsidering his/her desire to
be so secretive.  It doesn't help credibility or PR.

It doesn't help LEGO's credibility?  Again, I think the two of you are off.  I
don't see this affecting LEGO in any way at all, I simply gathered Marketing
info that I passed on to them.  You are both making a much larger issue out of
this than it is.

I do find your survey interesting but the whole "LEGO wants to know" part
really takes away from the survey in my opinion without the ability to
substantiate it.  I think if you just put the Survey up as just an informal
way for people to see a poll of what other people would like to see would
be more interesting to me than the whole "Officially Unofficial" way you
have advertised the survey.

I think that could help allay a lot of the confusion.  (Either that or
"Unofficially Official."  :-)

I am indeed changing the way I word things.  As a webmaster, I need to
advertise things to an extent, but I am becoming less and less worried about
traffic all the time.  My site has been an exceptional success, and I let the
several hundreds of people who check it daily make their own decisions about
what they want to voice their opinion on.  I'm learning.  But the only
confusion I am getting from this, again, is from the two of you.

Either way it does not make a hugh difference to me except I don't want to
participate with the way things are set up now.  I will still visit your
site for the other info you have there because I find it interesting.

All just my 2 cents worth.

Me too.  :)

I appreciate the two of you tuning in to FBTB.  If you so choose to not
participate in surveys or polls that I run that is obviously your call.  But I
won't lose sleep over it, I have several hundred votes to tabulate anyway :)

Tim



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  Re: Where are these survey answers coming from? (was: New Survey up for LEGO)
 
(...) I don't either -- that's why I wrote "Can you tell us...?" rather than "Please tell us..." (...) That says it all right there. As a Star Wars fan and a LEGO fan, I can now take the survey seriously. Thanks. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)

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  Re: Where are these survey answers coming from? (was: New Survey up for LEGO)
 
(...) Tim, wouldn't you agree, that's a very odd request for them to make? (Not so much the name part but the position part.) (...) So if I happened to casually mention this whole thing to a LEGO IP attorney (in a meeting coming up in a couple of (...) (25 years ago, 2-May-00, to lugnet.starwars)

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