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BZpower has put up a picture of the new Lando fig. Before you go look at it I want you to repeat after me.... "Bionicle is good" Now, that did not hurt did it? You can see the fig here: (URL) P (URL) (21 years ago, 9-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) Tim, the easily amused P.S. Who said Bionicle isn't good? Think of the possibilities! (21 years ago, 9-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) make a "black" minifig is precedent setting, and would also mean that every yellow minifig is white, IMO. I was always under the impression that minifigs were colorblind, so to speak. I know this discussion has been had before either in .Space (...) (21 years ago, 10-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Brad spoke to this at the BrickFest Q&A session. The NBA minifigures depict actual people. For the most realistic effect, they were made with dark or light skin colors, just like the real people they are modeled after. Generic (yellow) (...) (21 years ago, 10-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) The NBA situation is easy to figure out on the fact that they include not only the first black minifigs, but also the first white ones. If people complained that there weren't any black minifigs in the regular sets, you could finally point to (...) (21 years ago, 10-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) About three years ago it was revealed that all Minifigs speak Spanish. ("Re: Who's feelin the black pack") (URL) also suggested we have a separate newsgroup just for this issue! (21 years ago, 10-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Excellent idea (I wish they had done this, in fact), but I don't think the problem really revealed itself until people started begging for a "black" Lando fig. Luke and most of the main characters had already been released by then, so there (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) It's important to understand that the "race-card" was played a long time ago. A bunch of pale danes sat around a room and decided what primary color would work best as a "flesh" tone. They looked at each other and the choice was ethno-centric. (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) I'm really beginning to wish they had as well. I wouldn't be surprised if _they_ are wishing they'd done this. And if they aren't yet, they probably will be in a year or two, especially if that set ever hits retail store shelves. (...) That (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) I disagree with your assumptions. When LEGO first made any attempt at Lego "people", they had very few colors to choose from. Yellow was probably the best looking one available at the time. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't believe there was (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) However, we do have the clear example of (URL) set 215> as skin colour differentiating 'race'; and this set dates back to 1977 - not too long after yellow skin was established. Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Thanks for stepping forward to take the slings and arrows. I have witnessed, as everyone else here has, Lego listening to us. We asked for a small stormtrooper pack, releasing old sets, new colors, new train cars and engines, discounts on bulk (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) Actually, I remember hearing that they did polls to see what the public thought would be more appropriate. The public chose "yellow" (or at least "pre-existing brick color") over "flesh-tones". I'll grant you that at the time they probably (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, that's true IF you believe that Lego's race card is played across all lines and all themes. From what I remember, they've always been adamant about the race card only pertaining to minifigs and only fictional ones at that. Personally, I (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) You assume incorrectly about what you think are my assumptions. "...what primary color would work best a "flesh" tone." I covered that. Nor did I say that there was any overt racial motivation. What I do believe is that Lego didn't think (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Always? I don't think so... the first we heard of that policy was at the release of the NBA figures. After all, Speilberg (if the director is Speilberg) is yellow, and Zidane (and he is Zidane) is yellow. Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) After reading the posts, perhaps the issue is no longer "Does yellow=white?" but rather, "Why aren't there more people of color in the mainstream media?" If we had a Star Wars-type franchise that was evenly distributed among White, Black, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Aren't you forgetting about a minor character who popped up in the first few movies by the name of Darth Vader? Personally, I think you guys have too much time on your hands. Instead of being happy that LEGO is becoming a more culturally (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Ever wondered why people that have been baked under the twin suns of Tattooine for generations have such fair skin? Luke and all his family should have been played by black people. Cheers, Allister (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Sunscreen. (...) Hmmm.. Don't forget Luke was only half Tattooini. Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South Pacifique (2 URLs) Misérable Building a safer South Pacifique (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Sunscreen, sand and virtually no water - there's a magical combination. (...) So he was only a half-cast eh? No wonder they didn't let him stay with his parents. Cheers, Allister (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) And people say that the Empire was evil! Trust a democratic government to think that a parent is going to be a bad influence on a child. I wonder if they'll say "sorry"? :-) Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
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(...) Pah! Do-gooders never do. And they'll wonder why when he starts dressing all in black and going crazy with a lightsabre in a respectable merchant's own place of business, leaving no-one alive. Cheers, Allister (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
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(...) minifigs... (...) Agreed 100%. This only means that the company is working to make the product even better. At brickfest, I asked during the QandA if the NBA race/plastic color was going to continue into the other themes like world city. The (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) Uh, he's at least one black man and two white men playing a white man. Dave! (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) Of course he is black! Who's colour blind here? Isn't the costume black or what colour is it? If it the person inside you are talking about, he is white, duh. It wouldn't make any sense for him to be black since he is Anakin Skywalker and as (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) The actor doing the voice of Darth Vader suit is (URL) James Earl Jones > JohnG, GMLTC (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Okay?? There is a guy inside the suit, right? So then why would another person be needed to do the voice? (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Because (URL) David Prowse> doesn't have the thunderific voice of James Earl Jones, and James Earl Jones isn't as menacingly tall as Prowse. And let's not forget the late (URL) Shaw.> But by all means, let's forget the execrable (URL) Hayden (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Because James Earl Jones isn't 6'7" tall, and (URL) David Prowse> doesn't have the deep booming voice that George Lucas was looking for (listening for?) for Darth Vader... I can't believe we're even discussing this. JohnG, GMLTC (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Isn't he a white man and a black man playing a white man in a black suit? :) DaveE (snipped .general) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars)
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In lugnet.starwars, James Seibert wrote: [ snip ] I have witnessed, as (...) Hear hear! Thank you Lego, for making TOYS (yes; they ARE toys!!!) that keep us occupied for so long. And don't take any notice of the "racial aware" people: I like mine (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
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(...) vader was played by david prowse. james earl jones provided the voice over. (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) if it had been james Earl Jones in the suit, he would have had to be renamed Darth Tubby. (...) Darth Wrinkly (...) Darth Whiney (...) Darth Cutesy (the most heinous of all) Cheers, Allister. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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(...) The best summation of Whiney's onscreen charisma: Anakin, as embodied by Christensen, is the kind of needlessly moody kid you might see getting punched out in a Dairy Queen parking lot. from (URL) review>. Also pretty funny, while I'm at it: (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, FTX)
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