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| | | If all space subthemes, plus Classic space [even though it's no subtheme[maybe they're just space pirates]] declared all-out war on eack other, who would be the victor? Z (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) The LEGO Company, because we'd all have to buy replacement sets. :-) OK, I would have to say that if one measures based on number of different vessels and equipment, it would have to be the Star Wars theme, they have more vessels, although (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | | (...) subtheme[maybe (...) be (...) IMO, the war would be most interesting if each subtheme had vast amounts of each type of unit. Z (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Alex Vera
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| | | | | | | (...) subtheme[maybe (...) be (...) but you've got to note that star wars takes place A long long time ago, so the characters would all be dead. (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Alex Vera
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| | | | | | (...) subtheme[maybe (...) be (...) but you've got to note that star wars takes place A long long time ago, so the characters would all be dead. alex (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Bruce Hobbs
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| | | | | (...) AHem.....Well I bet you someone is going to say blacktron.... But I think It would be the Exploriens....I mean they have a varied fleet...... THey got Bases, CAPital ships, small ships, trucks, Smaller Bases....smaller trucks.....& those GIant (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | | (...) subtheme[maybe (...) fleet...... (...) Yes, the Exploriens do have quite an arsenal. I thought about Blactron though, since their ships still have plenty of medium weapons. Z (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Alex Roode
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| | | | | | (...) subtheme[maybe (...) fleet...... (...) Explorians?! Ah!? they don't have weapons! Or are you one of those military lovers that pretends a satelite is a superlaser? ALex Me (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | (...) be (...) Why not have everything blanketed in energy weapons? IMO, no space empire can get too military oriented; the more, the better [bet the enemy wouldn't expect a turbolaser-caked freighter, especially if half its cargo is fighters]. The (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Mark Nelson
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| | | | | | (...) Hahahaha! I agree... :) -- Mark Nelson Speedy's Lego Page: (URL) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) Then again, of course, it's not a freighter anymore...:) best LFB (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | (...) What's the difference between transports and freighters? Is one armed, and the other not? I haven't been able to figure that one out.. Z (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) Freighters carry generic cargo, stored as compactly as possible for shipping. "Transports" generally carry people or machines designed for immediate deployment or comfort. "Tenders" also fall into this category. Now, what does one call a ship (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | | (...) if (...) the (...) deployment (...) a (...) filling (...) Transports can (...) purpose. (...) That makes sense. Then, I suppose, a freighter bristling with turbolasers and with a cargo bay 2/5 full with fighters can still be used as a (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | | | (...) especially (...) that also serves as a heavy warship doesn't need escorts. What a cool idea. Maybe I should build one. Z (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | | (...) Sure! But then it may not be a "freighter" anymore (even if it started out that way). It becomes more like the amphibious assault ships the US Navy uses today--they can carry cargo, and a lot of it, but they also carry a lot of craft and (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | Granted, fighters don't generally mind what the pattern is as long as they can get in and out, and historically they haven't been aboard sea freighters because of the whole runway issue that may be irrelevant to small spacecraft. A fair number of (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hm...I wasn't aware that had actually been implemented. I knew the option had been studied, but thought it was canned once P-51s and P-47s became available along with "Jeep" carriers (CVEs) for convoy duty. It probably was, but I can see (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Alex Vera
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| | | | | | (...) if (...) the (...) deployment (...) a (...) filling (...) Transports can (...) purpose. (...) But what if the freighter uses trash, debris, or radiation as a weapon? Alex (25 years ago, 30-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Rick Kujawa
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| | | | | Probably UFO or Insectoids because they are not human. (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —John Robert Blaze Kanehl
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| | | | | | (...) My money is on the classic space....lots of infantry and firepower......lol c'mon these old style brick walls make for pretty thick armor on the galaxy explorer, space cruiser, starfleet voyager.......and the later galaxy commander had a ton (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | (...) subtheme[maybe (...) be (...) I figure, if everyone has basically the same amount of forces and tech level, that Classic would be a massive threat to everyone, with so many types of fighter, capital ship, tank, etc. Yeah, Classic would bust (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Greg Majewski
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| | | | | (...) I'd have to say Ice Planet. If anyone tried to attack them on home turf, then their enemies' vessels would probably not last long, seeing as they probably wouldn't be used to the temperatures and terrain there. Also, the Ice Planeteers, or (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | | (...) If a ship is used in outer space, I think it would have no problem with extreme temperatures...and I'd bet there were more hostile environments that Ice Planet. Ice Planet is nice enough to be inhabited. MOCs would win, hands down :) I'm not (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) What about: Classic Space: 462 Rocket Launcher 483 Alpha-1 Rocket Base 897 Launcher {non-U.S. version of 462} 920 Launch Pad {non-U.S. version of 483} 6802 Space Probe 6871 Star-Patrol Launcher 6881 Lunar Rocket Launcher 6950 Mobile Rocket (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | IMO, Unitron, Blacktron, or Classic. Those girly Insectoids would fall first, followed by the flimsy Futurons and UFOs. I think Unitron would be the most powerful, though. A few thousand Star Hawk 2s would dominate space, while thousands of Crater (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Bruce Hobbs
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| | | | | (...) RECAP!!! Ok this is what I think would happen... 1st Ice Planet would sit there @ home & launch there INTERSTELLAR BALLISTIC MISSLIES (TM!!!) (ISBM)... Then Magnetron would send out there Magno ships & redirect there missles back @ Ice planet (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | (...) Much of that may depend on strategy... Z (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | IMO, the war would be won by whoever was lead by the best strategist. But, the quality of the spacecraft and an empire's overall power would also be a massive factor [duh]. So why not steal leftover fleets, ship plans, tech, and military power from (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Kya Morden
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| | | | | | (...) You read about my Viper "subtheme" didn't you? The went around and stole all the coolest ships from the space line up circa 1993. Kya (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | (...) The Alliance of Planets!!!!! ;) (URL) I couldn't resist! Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator/CAD Operator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Dan Simonson
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| | | | | (...) Really Depends. Is Blacktron Allied? Who is attacking? Who is defending? Where are the battles? Well, I think nobody would win. First Spyrius would fire off its little missile, followed by Ice Planet's arsenal. Spyrius's sauser scouts would (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | (...) subtheme[maybe (...) Nah, history has shown that things are never that simple [i.e., in that case, I think that Blacktron would instead nuke those goody-goody SP [thank their superior Imperial Navy], although with major losses. So, Blacktron (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Dan Simonson
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| | | | | | (...) That was just a thrown together, all out stupid idea I came up with. It really does depend on what the commanders want to do. Ex: Slaughter civilians. Ex2: Steal enemy plans for ships/ ships. Someone would have to act it out or a group of (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | Since an all-out space war would most certainly depend on each empire's strategists, the question of who would win can be answered with another question: Whose commanders are the better strategists? I agree, a military is as strong as it is (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | (...) Maybe someone should create wargaming rules for this, then have an online battle. One person per faction, and such. It would probably work best if you consider BT I & II separate factions, and split classic space into factions (based on canopy (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Rick Kujawa
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| | | | | | I can envision a real-time multiuser game with 60-100 players forming alliances and conducting missions similar to "Warbirds". I like 6891 6887 too. (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | (...) There's already a game like that. You can download a shareware version [I think] at (URL) .The full version, last time I checked, is $20. I used to have a copy of Version 3 [to my misfortune someone deleted it [so what? that's more time for (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Rick Kujawa
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| | | | | | I doubt its for differnt Lego Space factions (Blactron 1 vs Spyrius etc.) (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Patrick Leahy
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| | | | | | (...) It's not a Lego game. But, since everyone here seems to love fleet combat and such, I thought you might still be interested. Seriously, try it! It also has cool ship designs that have ideas excellent for Lego constructions. You all would (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Alex Roode
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| | | | | (...) I'd say U.F.O. or Insectoids. I know, a lot of people don't like either, but I happen tolike BOTH of them. Anyway, the U.F.O. because of their powerful ships and weapons, and the Insectoids because of sheer strength in numbers [1] Cause on the (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Joel VanAtta
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| | | | | (...) I'd have to agree with Greg, the Ice Planet territory would wreak havoc on any attacking ships, and the downright cold temps would freeze the unprepared, and shorten their numbers, so the remaining ones would flee. Joel (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Alex Vera
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| | | | | (...) No one, they'd all destroy each other. Say The blacktrons destroy everyone else. Then their resources would be depleted, and they'd die eventually. Alex (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, no matter who wins, the Universe collapses upon itself in a few hundred billion years, or else expands until entropy is absolute, and everyone loses. That's very nihilistic of you, Alex. ;) best Lindsay (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: free-for-all in space —Alex Vera
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| | | | (...) Earth. Ever heard of the melissa virus? Alex (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.space)
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