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Re: New Space MOCs
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Tue, 14 Jan 2003 03:44:21 GMT
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This has been a fascinating discussion about the various pros and cons of
greebling. I'm replying to the discussion in general, but posting in reply
to this specific one mainly due Adrian's use of the phrase 'it's a little
too engreebled'.
I'm certainly no expert on greebling, but it seems to me that really there's
no such thing as too much greebling, or if there is, it's an entirely
subjective judgement. Sometimes a ship suits heavy engreeblement, and I
think JHK's heavy fighter (or whatever you want to call it) is just such a
ship. Even in the shot with a lot of the greebling removed, it still looks
fairly heavily engreebled, and I think it'd look wrong without them.
The thing about space fantasy, which I think includes this ship, is that you
can invent any imaginary or outlandish technology to solve any problems that
would reduce the credibility of an otherwise cool looking design in the
'real' world that sci-fi has to deal with. Too many vulnerable parts
exposed? - it has force fields a la Star Wars. Problem solved.
The only critisism I'd offer is not how much greebling there is, but that,
especially around the front end, they look like a bit of an afterthought,
like after finishing the model he's seen a handful of greebling parts and
stuck them on any bare stud. Clearly John's having a lot of fun with the
lage pile of grey greebling parts courtesy of the new ISD, and I for one
don't hold that against him.
But back ot the point. From what I've recently learnt about greebling (but
have yet to actually practice) is that it works best when it has a
deliberate look to it. Even though by nature greebling's purpose is
undefined, it works best if it looks like it does have some purpose, if it
looks like a real machine. Randomly placing small grey parts never seems to
look right - I've done it enough times myself to realise this. This, I
believe is the problem with the heavy fighter, at least in the front
section. The stuff around and under the engine cowling is excellent.
Having said that, greebled or ungreebled, it's a fine looking ship. I
especially like the engines.
If you've read this far, thankyou for indulging this .space neophyte in
voicing his possibly erroneous opinions.
Cheers,
Allister
In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake writes:
> In lugnet.space, Curt Tigges writes:
> > All of these are very nice MOCs. The "Heavy Fighter" is very cool. The only
> > fault I can find with it is that there are so many greeblies that the the
> > fighter would be very vulnerable, with so much machinery exposed.
> > But overall, very good job.
>
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> I had the same thought. While the heavy fighter looks nice, I think it's a
> little TOO engreebled. There ought to be a few patches where it's smoothish
> because, as Curt said, if this were a real ship, all those little bits would
> be very vunerable. Despite the criticism, it still is a really cool looking
> craft.
>
> Adrian
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