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Hello All! I'm kicking around the idea (pretty seriously) of finally picking up a Mindstorms, and had a few questions: 1. MS vs CM; are they essentially the same except where the program is stored and executed? If so, what kind of range are we (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) No, they're actually fairly different. Cybermaster Mindstorms ---...--- Designed for "play" Designed for inventing Two built in motors Two external motors No motor/light outputs (?) Three outputs to wire to motors or lights Three inputs Three (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Well, I can't give you a complete list of what's in it because I started mixing pieces from it and the basic set almost immediately, but here's a list of some of the pieces: Purple: 2 2x2 medium slope 2 2x2 medium inverted slope 8 2x4 technic (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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"Robert Farver" rfarver@rcn.com wrote in <F0HH9C.29B@lugnet.com>: (...) <snip> (...) <snip of long list> Thanks for the info. Other than the pieces, what's so special about it? Any good plans or programs? Basically, I guess I just don't understand (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Matthew Miller wrote in message ... (...) CM has one general output port besides the internal motors. Eric Brok (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Besides, the CM cd-rom encompasses an extensive and impressive 'computer game' sort of adventure, with lots of computeranimatons, like a LEGO ISLAND cd-rom title in itself. Very well done; must have been a work of labor for the production team. Eric (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) I dunno that much about the technical side of MS or CM. As has been pointed out already, CM is made for playing to a larger extent than MS. I'd still say CM is rather good, though, and quite worthwile. It's probably a good alternative to the (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) They looked interesting in the pictures I've seen. Can you describe them more? (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Well, there are five yellow wheels on each side, and the tread goes round them. The wheels are probably as large as the medium pulley and one stud wide, with a narrow but deep groove in the center to keep the treads on track. The treads are (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) ok, wasn't sure about that. (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) But you could use the treads without, yeah? I'd really like some better treads, as the ones that come in Mindstorms RIS, Tread Trekker, and Mountain Rambler are too small for a lot of things. (Particularly, hard to power and still have a lot (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Yes, you can. I haven't tried that, though, so it may very well be that you'll have a hard time trying build a chassis that fits the treads correctly. But it's probably just a matter of adjusting the yellow wheels properly. An interesting (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Matthew Miller wrote in message ... (...) Yup. First thing I did was put the treads on and try to get into the manual control bit. Unsuccessfully, as it turned out. So I watched about 20 min of video, some of which was cool, then discovered that my (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Moz (Chris Moseley) wrote in message ... (...) That's "should NOT be too expensive". Oops. (...) This is very true - you get more cycles as well as more capacity. Moz (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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"Moz (Chris Moseley)" <moz1@ihug.co.nz> writes: Do you have Cyber Master? Cool! Be sure to watch the lego-robotics list, if you aint already. (...) Is this to keep parts of them for later reference? That may be interesting. Personally, I would like (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) :) Yes. I'm waiting to see what the (frighteningly impressive) reverse-engineering people determine -- if I can program (...) Well, I've had my RoboTag robots going for large portions of the day for lots of days (sorry for being vague -- I've (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Moz, I couldn't find this reference in the previous posts: (...) I am I understanding that you have treads that are larger and more flexible than the ones that came with the mountain rambler? I am dying to get something bigger for an pneumatic (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) We were talking about the European 8482 Cyber Master set. This has treads that are larger than the mountain rambler ones. Fredrik (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Linc Smith wrote in message ... (...) Yeah, CyberMaster ones. (...) Those are still available from Dacta in the US I think, so try the Pittsco catalogue first. Someone here will know more. about that. But be aware that the link-based treads are (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Moz (Chris Moseley) wrote in message ... (...) I will check out Pittsco! I have always had a hard time finding information about them. I needed a large turntable at one point, and just ended up getting the Log Loader form S@H. I needed some of the (...) (26 years ago, 10-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Linc Smith wrote in message ... (...) Well, you're welcome to email it to me and I'll put it on my page. With pics, even, if I can get a non-expired copy of POV-Ray. Moz (26 years ago, 11-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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Linc Smith wrote in message ... (...) Hmm. Does Mindstorms count? While I like the extra parts, I bought one for the RCX and transmitter, the other just for the RCX... at $US265 once shipping and GST are included. (...) MS? Fun? Well, yes... :) Moz (...) (26 years ago, 11-Oct-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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