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Re: lowering noise
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lugnet.people
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Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:52:06 GMT
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In lugnet.people, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I dont consider it respectful and nor did Todd or Lenny from what I could
see. I find the whole thread very distasteful and would be very unhappy to
see more like it. Out of interest do you find
this post respectful?
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I hadnt seen that thread, but having just looked at it I have to agree with
Kelly-- Mark was not flaming at all. In the post you cite above I sense
Marks frustration at the reaction he got from his question, which, while
perhaps indelicate, was certainly not flaming.
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I find this interesting. I obviously have a different opinion of what
constitutes flaming. Calling people lackeys seems like flaming to me. As
does comparing them to Baghdad Bob. Could you explain to me why this is not
flaming?
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No, I agree with you that he should not have said Baghdad Bob and that it
serves no good purpose to call someone a lackey. But of *all* the instances of
provocation that have occurred over the years on Lugnet I would say this is very
minor, and it is especially no comparison to the rudeness we were subjected to
recently. That you didnt seem to have as big a problem with that leads me to
believe that to you (and many others here) the degree of flaming is a function
of the person it comes from.
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On a further note, if I call you Marks lackey now does it constitute
flaming? I think it would but you obviously think it wouldnt so is it my
intent that matters or the way you recieve it?
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If you called me Marks lackey I would say that is your inelegant way of
expressing displeasure at something Ive posted. I suspect that is the very
reason Mark used the term in the thread you brought up.
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If Mark had shown the same respect as you we would not be in this thread
discussing it. In my opinion his post is as much of a form of trolling as
any Ive seen in the Qwelder thread. But as you point out, my opinion is no
more valid than his.
Tim
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The way it appears to me Mark has asked a simple question (the one that had
been asked by Frank and gone unanswered) and you have reacted by bringing up
an old and irrelevant thread in which Mark is guilty of nothing more than
lack of tact.
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The way it appears to me is that Mark is pursuing an agenda (to get other
people banned) and reviving a matter which was finished and I have merely
pointed out a good reason why bans for flaming etc. are a risky business.
To add to my argument I brought up the other thread to demonstrate that
Marks opinion of what constitutes trolling differs from mine (and almost
certainly other peoples).
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I dont see that at all. And I didnt see it when Frank posted the question
which is a perfectly legitimate one. And that is, can someone address the
perceived unevenness of criteria used in deciding to ban people here?
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As for being old and irrelevant I beg to differ. Mark believes that
participants in an old thread should be brought to justice. If this is true
then I would expect it to apply to all old threads, including that one.
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The Qwelder thread and its offshoots are not old seeing as people still have
questions that were raised in it.
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Certainly there is no comparison between it and what has gone
on in recent weeks.
Maggie C.
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Im not sure that is certain at all. I consider what Mark did in that thread
to be flaming. He considers what people did in the Qwelder thread to be
flaming. That is a comparison.
Tim
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Perhaps you do consider it to be flaming. But I think you should know that to a
mecha outsider it certainly appears as though what you consider to be tolerable
is highly dependent on who is doing the posting.
Maggie
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Message has 1 Reply: | | Re: lowering noise
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| --SNIP-- (...) I wouldn't. I would find it very offensive to be called a lackey after telling someone off for something very rude (hijacking a singles ad post to make an argument). (...) You have derided the same things as Mark and now defend him, (...) (19 years ago, 8-Apr-06, to lugnet.people, FTX)
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| (...) I find this interesting. I obviously have a different opinion of what constitutes flaming. Calling people "lackeys" seems like flaming to me. As does comparing them to "Baghdad Bob". Could you explain to me why this is not flaming? On a (...) (19 years ago, 8-Apr-06, to lugnet.people, FTX)
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