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(...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) I'm sorry, but for my money, 6 was 'perfect' trek--as perfect as one could get in the Star Trek universe--you have the 'moral story' that Roddenberry liked to do, like eps--'A Private Little War' and the one with (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well, few are the sci-fi films that successfully carry a deep philosophical message. The Star Wars OT, for instance, seemed to suggest that you can be as evil, sadistic, and murderous as you want, as long as you kill one bad guy before you (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) There was an attempt at one (that's the whole point of the way the ending played out, and the name of the movie itself), though it fell pretty flat. (...) MST3K = Mystery Science Theatre 3000. They take all of the worst movies that they can (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) The Shatner was in VII "Generations," in which he went head to head with Malcolm MacDowell for a bit of the old ultra-violence. (...) That's the one! I like them, even with their artificial drama. Maybe it's all the tubes and hoses. (...) In (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Actually, I'm of the mind that WC is a real classic. It came out about the early 90's and it *was* a landmark. Graphics, sound, and most important: Plot. The missions you flew had a success or fail tree, so if you kept winning you drove the (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) And after puzzling out that you meant The 5th Element...there was a deep philosphical message? (rhetorical alert) :-) (...) Pardon me, poor choice of words. "...landmark game in its time" is what I meant to say. Wing Commander the game was (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Some do, but it mostly seems an attempt to apply the Even/Odd rule of ST movies (even=good, odd="my gorge doth rise"). (...) VII would be the cross-over movie, and VIII would be the one with the Geiger-Borg (man, I was peeved when they went (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I actually liked Mars Attacks, but I thought T5E tried to take itself too seriously, while at the same time trying to be light-hearted...with a deep philosophical message. It's theme is just to muddied and contradictory for me. (...) At what (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Three Words: Major League II Well actually I didn't see it in the theater. My buddies and I drove all the way to the theater to see it on opening night - and were greatly annoyed to find it completely sold out. I never did see it a the (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Do Trekkies include Star Trek: The Politically Correct Generation movies in the same numbering sequence? Was that the terrible one with the Shatner, or the not quite so terrible one with the Bore-g (let's not attack the humans because the (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) For me, Mars Attacks suffers from too much Burton, but that's just a function of my elsewhere-articulated non-fondness for the man's directing. Still, I give it props (yo yo yo, check out my mad skills re: hiphop linguistics) for being (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) This is one of those goofy movies that if you take it seriously at all you'll just hate it. It's one of those bad movies that I enjoy. I find Mar Attacks hilarious, but most other people just absolutely despise it. I suppose you had to be a (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I'm not talking about contradictory plot points, but contradictory themes. It's like watching a comedy series and catching those occassional tear-jerking episodes that make deeply profound statements...but without all of the funny episodes to (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I'm sick of trying to make sense of the Bricklink Brouhaha - and so what do I do? Talk about things that made me sick. The ones you mention are all awful, but I never actually paid to see them in a theatre. I'd rate at least the first two I (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) Nonsense! Everything was true, especially the contradictory parts, which were also false! RE: Song-and-dance routine: You mean the Diva? Yeah, I don't have much to say about that, except to wonder if she's related to Bib Fortuna. I liked the (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Oh, my opinion of that film goes well beyond that tiny little point. I was twitching during the song-and-dance routine, my eyes were drawn to Gary Oldman's hideous costume like it was a 20 car pileup, the "perfect woman" badly needed (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I like The Fifth Element, though I accept that it's darned goofy, and the "love is the answer" bit *is* pretty weak. Wing Commander--good call. I didn't see that one in the theater, but you're right that it's a major stinker. If I had to list (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I've been fortunate in that I've very rarely picked a movie to watch that I truly abhored. Rarely, but not never. Hmmm...lessee: 5. Star Trek: Nemesis 4. The Fifth Element 3. Batman Forever 2. Wing Commander (I mostly watched it for the TPM (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Hands down, Demons ((URL) Worst. Film. Ever. 2 hours, I'm *still* lamenting about never getting back. -Evil Wayne BTW, I sort of liked Howard the Duck. (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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What's the worst film that you ever saw in a first-run, full-price theater? Or, if you can manage it, how about the top five worst? Here's my list, in ascending order of foulness: Superman IV Striptease Robocop II Highlander II Howard the Duck I (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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