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		Re: Not the right way to exit?
(...) Three factors have always prevented me from enjoying the series. First, I can't stand most of the cast (Flounder and Tron and the woman from (URL) The Hidden,> et all). Second, I really really really don't like the CGI graphics, which to me (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) OK, what if it's equally valid to claim pagan-animist value system and governance because those are the antecedent of Judaism? (...) But since several of the thinkers of the time were openly hostile to religion in general and clearly not (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
(...) Let's hope not :) If stated so, I have a hunch lots of people would start migrating over to the liberal side :) (...) Well, I doubt that's John's point since I don't think he's interested in making other laws to: - attend church on Sunday - (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) Are you feeling ok, John? This is precisely what I've been arguing all along. Let the parties to the contract (or the private contracting/sanctioning organization) define who can participate. Keep the state out of interfering with the right of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) It is forbidden, but not very strongly. It's basically under optional enforcement, so the US can revoke your citizenship whenever it's convenient as long as it can be proven that you've done something that warrants such action. Technically the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Not the right way to exit?
(...) Yes. As has been repeatedly been pointed out, by myself and others, going back to the very beginning of this newsgroup, we're a major causative factor, if not the primary reason, for Iraq's recent troubles. Some blame lays at the feet of the (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Not the right way to exit?
(...) I'm not certain that I follow the analogy, but maybe. So what if they think that? If I do what I believe is "right" each and every time I have to make a decision, they will learn what I have the stomach for. (...) I don't care what terrorists (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
(...) How is allowing or not allowing same-sex marriages going to affect this? I mean, it's a valid concern and all, but forbidding two guys to get married with each other won't make them want to get married to women and have kids, and allowing two (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Not the right way to exit?
(...) Really? That's kinda funny, given the external circumstances. Stargate recently started franchising, there are rumors that another B5 spinoff is in the works, and after the whole debate of whether ST or B5 was superior or which show stole (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Not the right way to exit?
(...) I suggest "1". (...) While I enjoyed TNG and I loved DS9, B5 just seemed less foofy from the start. Instead of shields they have a "defense grid". It consists of BFGs. One of them in particular looks like its barrel is at least large enough (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) For instance, show me in the Constitution the right to marry. You will have to stretch and twist, until finally you can come up with a ruling such as Roe vs Wade that allows a women to kill her baby in her third trimester of pregnancy under (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
(...) The operative word I'd say would be "two". (...) Not really. Marriage is a religious institution-- that governments decide to recognize marriages as civil unions is where the rub lies. All I am arguing is for the preservation of the definition (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
(...) The state should recognize marraige as a contract between persons, no matter their sexual affiliation. If the Church wants to put quantifiers on that contract, i.e. one person must be female, and the other must be male, all the power to the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) If they're only referring to the bible on the subject of determining punishment, as long as the punishment fits within the legal min/max limits, there are generally no strict legal guidelines for how they are to go about determining what (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Nike sued over a stick-man drawing?
(...) Okay, I've watched it now. Thanks for the link, BTW. It's actually quite an amusing little ad. Now, Even though the Nike version moves in a less jerky manner, pulls all kinds of weird body stunts that the xiaoxiao version doesn't, interacts (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) Over the past couple of months I have occasionally been sending letters to the local paper in my neck of the woods in response to another gentleman who has been doing the same. (Most of which, the paper has been printing on both sides of the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Not the right way to exit?
(...) We'd lose any remaining credibility if we just annexed them into the US (not to mention the added drawback of being permanently stuck with them until either we or they are all dead, which is really a greater cost than the oil is worth), and we (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
(...) I recognize that the law requires boys to pee in one place and girls to pee in another, but I can't really think of a solid reason that this should be so, other than because people can be quaintly immature about functions involving the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) I submit that history shows the strong ties between religion and government by the presence of many state-enforced religions (including Islam in much of the Middle East, the Anglican Church in England, and Atheism in the ex-U.S.S.R.). I submit (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: (snipped a bunch of rehash of why John's confused about what right of free association means) (...) You give the Left too much credit here. Insofar as there is any validity in the Right/Left labels (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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