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    NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Maggie Cambron
   (...) Hey, I resemble that nasturtium! I'll have you know that I too cringe when I hear that phrase (no offense, Brad!). It also pains me that I have seen two people on Lugnet who certainly should have known better write "between you and I". And (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Ross Crawford
     (...) We'll show 'em! (...) Must've missed the other one(s), sorry 8?) (click,click,click....read....) Oh, there it is! (URL) Looks like a few other people like that one, too. Well I guess I've got one of your favourite words pinned down, not sure (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Maggie Cambron
     (...) Yes, you got it! Actually I had never heard of Marmite except on Lugnet, but ever since the Men At Work song I have been quite curious about Vegemite-- I even asked my mother-in-law once if she would pick me up some when she went to Australia, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Ross Crawford
     (...) I've been told by those not brought up on Vegemite that it's basically inedible. Pity, I've been eating it since before I could walk! You'll see my favourite concentrated yeast extract even gets a mention on my profile page (URL) to the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Maggie Cambron
     (...) Wow, "More Vegemite, less Marmite"!!! You must be one of the militant ones.... Maggie (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: joy of yeast paste (was re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide...)) —Dave Low
     (...) Oh there's plenty of us around... check out my post here: (URL) this excellent article on Vegemite Zen: (URL) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Dave Schuler
     (...) Say on, sister! A particular gripe for me is "irregardless," which for some reason sees a lot of use in my office. Further, as I've mentioned before, I am thoroughly vexed by "nukuler" in place of "nuclear." I'm not sufficiently pedantic to (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Maggie Cambron
      (...) Yes on both counts! Here's one that was pointed out to me long ago by a Ph.D. in biology: "dissect" does NOT rhyme with "bisect". The "dis-" has the same short i as in the word "discord". And this makes sense when you think of the meaning of (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Steve Bliss
      (...) There are people who really pronounce dissect with a short i? Wow. I've never heard it that way. Steve (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Adrian Drake
      According to Mirriam Webster (www.m-w.com), it's pronounced either way. Adrian (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Maggie Cambron
      (...) *sigh* Yeah, that's the thing about the English language, it is constantly evolving (some might say devolving!)-- otherwise I suppose we'd all go around talking like Chaucer's characters. The rate at which one accepts these changes is one of (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Santosh Bhat
     Is that metal Aloomenum (which I'm sure Americans are keeping secret from the rest of the world) actually useful for anything? Santosh (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) How else would you pronounce aluminum? Can't be five syllables with only four vowels. ;-) Bruce (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Ross Crawford
      (...) Except on most periodic tables, you'll see it spelt "Aluminium". Most dictionaries list one as a variant of the other. ROSCO (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Mark Sandlin
       (...) Don't you mean "spelled" ? ;^) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Jeff Stembel
       (...) No use crying over spelt milk... ;) Jeff (follow-ups to o-t.pun) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) Hmmmm, well, my father-in-law - who has has multiple degrees in chemistry from Cal Tech and teaches chemistry - spells it aluminum. Nyahh, nyahh, nyahh! :-P And since you note both are listed, it kinda reduces you first comment's (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
        My God, header frenzy!: (...) Sure, those Cal Tech boys can rig up an RF unit to screw with the Rose Bowl scoreboard, but can they really spell...? It's like asking someone with a doctorate in pediatrics (paediatrics for the ANZAC/UK crowd) to take (...) (23 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: NOT the Queen's English ('Muricans) —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) Okay, there. Pared down. Happy? :-) (...) That depends: engineers can't spell, scientists are better about it. (...) You can call me Al, but you don't need to call me Aluminium? (...) Nothing to make it a long U. The root word is Al-um, not (...) (23 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: NOT the Queen's English ('Muricans) —Mark Sandlin
       (...) Oh quit cracking jokes. ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
      
           Re: NOT the Queen's English ('Muricans) —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) You don't want to get into a geology-based pun-fest with me or you may find yourself thrust-faulted in your orogenous zone. Grund Flet Admiral Entegummi (23 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)
      
           Re: NOT the Queen's English ('Muricans) —Mark Sandlin
       (...) Yeah, I guess I took things for granite. ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —John D. Forinash
      (...) And just to add more useless information to this discussion, I threw both spellings at Google to see which spelling was more often used online: Aluminum: 1,560,000 Aluminium: 749,000 Both: 56,800 -JDF (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Tom Stangl
     It's very useful - more useful than al-u-MIN-ium, which doesn't exist ;-) (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | iPlanet Support - (URL) A division of AOL Time Warner | Please do not associate my (...) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Thomas Main
     (...) Check out what The American Heritage® Book of English Usage, A Practical and Authoritative Guide to Contemporary English has to say about this subject: (URL) Main main@appstate.edu (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Maggie Cambron
     (...) Okay, they have a good argument, but I must say that I've heard the phrase uttered by a lot of people on whom (IMHO) sarcasm is wasted anyway, so that explanation is a bit of a stretch for me. Hey, and remember that song from long ago "Too (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Dave Schuler
     (...) Billy Squier. Dave! (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Dave Schuler
      (...) D'oh! If you look closely, you'll see that I'm an idiot. I meant Styx. Of course, if it were Lethe I would have an excuse for forgetting... Dave! (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Ross Crawford
      (...) Yep. Billy had that highly forgettable hit "The Stroke" (great rockin guitar riff though). ROSCO (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Steve Bliss
     (...) Styx. Paradise Theater. The full lyrics are here. (...) They don't make much sense, reading literally. Steve (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —James Brown
     (...) And the really disturbing thing is that Styx is still touring. My wife saw them in concert about a month ago. (!) James (23 years ago, 8-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Steve Bliss
     (...) Actually, I think that's "again touring", not "still touring". They had split for a long time. Long enough for various members to join/form various other bands, with varying degrees of success. Steve (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English (was re: Lugnet Guide a lot less convenient today) —Bill Farkas
   (...) Here's one that drives me BONKERS! *"All of a sudden."* What is a "sudden". And how does "all" of one cause something to occur quickly. What does "part of a sudden" do? (I looked it up - it is also a noun, but it still drives me crazy). Here's (...) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English —Dave Schuler
   (...) Add to that "let me aks you a question" and "I took a pitcher with my camera." Both usages are popular here in "Picksburg." Dave! (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English —Maggie Cambron
   (...) supposably libary I know this is not improper but it always jars me when my NLS, who hails from Long Island, talks about having to stand "on line" at the post office or bank. Is this peculiar to New Yorkers or do people say it up and down the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English —Dave Schuler
     (...) Now that I think of it, there's another western PA-ism (and maybe elsewhere) in which the speaker drops the "to be" infinitive. For example, one might say "the laundry needs washed" rather than "the laundry needs to be washed" or "the laundry (...) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English —Richard Marchetti
     (...) Wait! Where does this word come from? I once saw an episode of "Friends" where the character "Joey" uses this word as though it were correct. Were they actually making fun of an east coast regional dialect? What makes this especially (...) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: NOT the Queen's English —Steve Bliss
   (...) I think they get it from across the pond. They just can't bring themselves to go whole hog, and stand on queue. Steve (23 years ago, 12-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 

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