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Re: How to start a fire.
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Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:40:55 GMT
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> I'm not sure that quite qualifies perspective-wise, even accepting the fact that
> abortion==murder. We're talking (assumedly) military-inflicted deaths in Iraq
> versus civilian-inflicted deaths through abortion. And even beyond that, the
> Iraqi population is what? Like 22 million? US is 275 million? So for even
> comparison's sake you'd need at least 12,500 US deaths to compare to? Though I'd
> easily believe that within the span of our Iraqi occupation, there have been
> more than that many abortions.
Over 1000 every day.
> Regardless, apples and oranges. I'd accuse you of intentionally wanting to
> argue the principles of abortion rather than the Iraqi issue at hand in that
> instance-- hence baiting and/or trolling.
Yeah I figured it might be taken that way, that is why the subject is "how to
start a fire"
> Which is a perfectly fine topic, but I wouldn't recommend posing it as a
> terribly relevant topic when discussing Iraqi civilian deaths. I could just as
> easily make a nearly equally relevant point by
> taking the animal-rights-activist standpoint and saying that more innocent
> animals in the US are slaughtered every day.
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> Here's an honest, relevant question for anyone that knows: How many military
> (IE government) inflicted deaths did Saddam's regime cause in a typical year
> in his country? I don't honestly know that there was ever even 1, but going by
> all the hype, they make it sound like it wouldn't be unexpected. Anyone have
> stats?
Well assuming we can trust the news reports of mass graves. The estimates I have
read in the paper are over 1 million over the past 10-12 years. As no one seems
to be arguing that Saddam was a brutal dictator, I see no reason not to beleive
this. Of course there are plenty of other dictators doing the same thing but
they don't have weapons of mass destruction so we will just let them be. Oh wait
neither did Saddam, hmmm, the other dictators don't have oil so we just let them
be.
-Mike Petrucelli
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| (...) In the words of Strong Bad: "Holy Crap!". That's an average of nearly 250 per day! Dang. By those standards we should've killed, what? 20-25K Iraqis and we've only bumped off 1000? We're under way under par! I'd say that our 1000 is *progress* (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm not sure that quite qualifies perspective-wise, even accepting the fact that abortion==murder. We're talking (assumedly) military-inflicted deaths in Iraq versus civilian-inflicted deaths through abortion. And even beyond that, the Iraqi (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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