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Re: How to start a fire.
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Date: 
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:13:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
Going on the assumption that abortion = murder, your argument is that an
unconnected wrong justifies another.  This requires that you prove any abortion
= murder without condition (not to mention you are still saddled with proving
one wrong justifies another).

Assuming that abortion /= murder, your argument is simply a way to dodge the
justifications, or lack thereof, of the Iraqi war.

Let me ask you a question: do you think your friend walked away because he felt
there was no way to refute your argument, or that he thought it was too specious
to bother with?

No I think he took it exactly as I intended. Along the lines of "why are people
making such a fuss over this when there are far worse evils to be stopping
first."

So, an unrelated wrong justifies the other.

No an unrelated wrong does not justify the other. However it is receiving undue
attention when there are larger concerns to worry about. Much like I can not
figure out why everyone made such a big deal about the space shuttle accident.
Far more people are killed every day in car accidents but no one makes a
national fuss. In both cases it is a tradgedy but why is the lesser tradgedy
given more attention?

Nonsense.  Nor is the "wrong" proven, just your opinion.


Also you might want to read:
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=21289


Why?

Because Saddam was intentionally killing far more Iraqi's than the US did
accidentally in the process of liberating them. I said before the war that was
reason enough for me to support military action.  My problem is that we only did
it for the stupid oil and not for concern over innocent life. There are plenty
more dictatorships doing the same things but their countries don't have
something we want, so we don't care. Peace is a joke. There has been more
fighting in the world on almost any day for at least the last 15 years, than
there was a the height of World War 2. 1000 people is a bloody nose and everyone
is making it out to be a dismemberment. Oddly enough the birth rate is still
higher than the death rate so the World population is still increasing.

-Mike Petrucelli



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  Re: How to start a fire.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) I think, at least for me, and I believe I've heard others describe it this way--like when Kennedy got shot, when the Apollo 1 caught fire, when the Challenger blew up, and (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: How to start a fire.
 
(...) So, an unrelated wrong justifies the other. Nonsense. Nor is the "wrong" proven, just your opinion. (...) Why? -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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