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Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
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Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:25:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
Larry Pieniazek wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman writes:

And on a last note.. did you know that Iran is one of the few working
democracies in the region?

Um, not exactly a democracy. You may want to do a little more research. For
starters, see this article, particularly the illustration of how power
actually works:

http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?Story_id=1522038

The entire special report that this is a part of is quite good.

Hmm, is there a similar report that doesn't have a cost to view?

Er, whoops. I'm an Economist subscriber (print edition) so it's no cost to me.

But the point of the article, and the diagram in particular, is that Iran is
more of a theocracy that has some elected (but basically powerless)
appendages, than a democracy...

Try this link:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html

Not nearly as well written or easy to digest as The Economist articles, but
then that's public vs. private funding for you.

The Supreme Leader (an ayatollah) has power over all of the executive
branch, and the Council of Guardians (1/2 apppointed directly by the Supreme
Leader, the other half by Parliament but only from candidates suggested by
the incumbent judiciary) has veto power over all legislation.

Not very democratic at all, despite trappings. In some ways, more dishonest
(since it fools the gullible, even here) than an out an out thugocracy like
Syria.

But what's the relevance?

Iran is a threat to peace everywhere, democracy or not.



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  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) the most basic element of democracy is that the people decide how they want their government to work. in 1981, when US backed Saddam invaded their country, people signed up en masse to give their lives for their country. Of course, it is easy (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) The modernisers in Iran were gaining serious ground until Bush came along with his "axis of evil" nonsense. Scott A (21 years ago, 10-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
Much snippage.. (...) Nothing's changed my view on that: (URL) Iran is a threat to peace everywhere, democracy or not. Nothing's changed my view on that either: (URL) (older but good) (URL) (today) (Note that pointing out that they're not the only (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) Hmm, is there a similar report that doesn't have a cost to view? Frank (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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