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Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
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Mon, 7 Apr 2003 08:22:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

The quagmire here is not IN Iraq, much to the dismay of the pundits who have
been opining that every chance we get. Winning the war in Iraq is the easy part.

The quagmire is that we are going to need to fix a bunch of other people's
wagons to get Iraq to resolve satisfactorily... Syria has to give back all
the WoMD that Iraq shipped there and stop sending fighters in, Iran has to
stop sending fighters in, Jordan has to stop illegally selling oil, Turkey
has to be restrained from knocking off the Kurds, the Kurds have to be
restrained from carving off a piece of Turkey and a piece of Iran for
"Kurdistan"... Saudi Arabia has to stop funding terrorists... Russia has to
stop selling baby evil empires military hardware (they have helped all three
of the axis of evil countries) and worst of all...

Patriotism (war time illness) made you blind Larry? Or is this somebody else
messaging here using Larry's name?

Everybody knows which country supported most both Saddam (against Iran) and
Bin Laden (against Russians).

France and Germany need to be dealt with for (among many other things) first
blocking NATO from figuring out how to aid Turkey if she were attacked, and
then strongarming the Turkish opposition into voting as a block against
deployment  by threatening to block Turkey from ever joining the EU if they
helped the US... thus probably costing thousands of innocent civilian lives
by prolonging the war.

Turkish voting of "no to US deployment" is mostly based on internal politics
(the governing party AKP has a voting base mostly consisting of
fundelmatalists, which are against US, by definition), the famous Turkish
unability to organize, and your diplomats' tedious patronizing style (yes,
we have some patriotizm, too).

Selçuk



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  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) Shh! You’ll scare the children. Just imagine the mess at the "trial" of either of these guys if they are ever caught! Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) US diplomatic ineptitude cannot be discounted, but the main reason we are hearing here for the Turkish parliament voting the way they did is pressure from Germany and, especially, France, in the form of a threat to block Turkey joining the EU. (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  TOTALLY off topic (was Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...)
 
(...) Selçuk! Where have you been, man? I haven't seen you around here for some time. Good to see you haven't vanished. best LFB (20 years ago, 14-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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some excerpts from. (URL) senior leadership decided last month to send irregular paramilitary units across their border with Iraq to harass American soldiers once Saddam Hussein's regime fell, according to U.S. intelligence reports. "This confirmed (...) (21 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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