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Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
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Mon, 7 Apr 2003 08:22:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> The quagmire here is not IN Iraq, much to the dismay of the pundits who have
> been opining that every chance we get. Winning the war in Iraq is the easy part.
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> The quagmire is that we are going to need to fix a bunch of other people's
> wagons to get Iraq to resolve satisfactorily... Syria has to give back all
> the WoMD that Iraq shipped there and stop sending fighters in, Iran has to
> stop sending fighters in, Jordan has to stop illegally selling oil, Turkey
> has to be restrained from knocking off the Kurds, the Kurds have to be
> restrained from carving off a piece of Turkey and a piece of Iran for
> "Kurdistan"... Saudi Arabia has to stop funding terrorists... Russia has to
> stop selling baby evil empires military hardware (they have helped all three
> of the axis of evil countries) and worst of all...
Patriotism (war time illness) made you blind Larry? Or is this somebody else
messaging here using Larry's name?
Everybody knows which country supported most both Saddam (against Iran) and
Bin Laden (against Russians).
> France and Germany need to be dealt with for (among many other things) first
> blocking NATO from figuring out how to aid Turkey if she were attacked, and
> then strongarming the Turkish opposition into voting as a block against
> deployment by threatening to block Turkey from ever joining the EU if they
> helped the US... thus probably costing thousands of innocent civilian lives
> by prolonging the war.
Turkish voting of "no to US deployment" is mostly based on internal politics
(the governing party AKP has a voting base mostly consisting of
fundelmatalists, which are against US, by definition), the famous Turkish
unability to organize, and your diplomats' tedious patronizing style (yes,
we have some patriotizm, too).
Selçuk
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