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Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes:
> Turkish voting of "no to US deployment" is mostly based on internal politics
> (the governing party AKP has a voting base mostly consisting of
> fundelmatalists, which are against US, by definition), the famous Turkish
> unability to organize, and your diplomats' tedious patronizing style (yes,
> we have some patriotizm, too).
US diplomatic ineptitude cannot be discounted, but the main reason we are
hearing here for the Turkish parliament voting the way they did is pressure
from Germany and, especially, France, in the form of a threat to block
Turkey joining the EU. (and a reminder of how they held up NATO organizing
to aid Turkey, prior to the commencement of the war).
It was the opposition that voted against it, as a unanimous bloc, or so we
are told.
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