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Re: Brick Testament in Trouble?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:44:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > I'm glad you put a winky there-- that is one of my hot buttons-- "artists"
> > hiding behind the First Amendment while they purvey filth and obscenity-- and
> > then *I* have to support it! (NEA in the US)
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> Well, John, maybe you just don't understand art ?
Perhaps, but then again, I *was* an Art Major in kollege...
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> Don't forget that not so long ago, many great artists were considered doing
> filth and obcenity too... These artists are now the great ones that we
> study in art school. Artists, in my opinion, are often a hundred years
> ahead of those who don't understand their art.
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> Of course, there are things that are obviously NOT art,
Gotcha. Go ahead and try and list one, and you will instantly realize what I
am talking about.
> so your statement,
> in some cases, could be right, but generally not. Since you were so vague,
> I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about it and I'll simply consider
> that you meant it in very specific cases, like pedophiles and such.
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> There is also the "obscenety" issue on which I am very sensitive. What is
> obscene anyway? Apart from the obvious (children in sexual/nude scenes,
> murder scenes, etc), I consider almost nothing as obscene. And even there,
> in a hundred years, we will not see things as we see them now, a fact that I
> always try to keep in mind. For me, the most obscene thing there is are
> children in churches. So this word is very different from a person to
> another, which makes your statement even more vague.
Right, and the same applies to the question "what is art?" The bottom line is
that it is what a given culture says it is, and that opinion is shaped by the
prevailing morality of that culture. Get a sick culture and you get sick art.
JOHN
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