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(...) Well, since I've publically stated I think their reasoning in WWII was nothing short of terrorism anyway (lets not go there again), I'd have to say "neither", especially with dubya at the helm. Here's another question: Do you think that (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) David (no "!") understood what I was refering to - technically everything Canada did was supposed to be approved by the Queen until that last vestige of empire was officially expunged a couple of decades ago. I was embarrassed for my Canadian (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In what way are they *SPECIFICALLY* linked. -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If it was Québec, I am not a bit surprised. The Crown had assumed compromises to protect the french heritage of the province. Obviously, they would rather keep the privilege. (...) Was that clause used often, btw? (...) The Crown declared war. (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Someone once said that America needed a revolution to become their own country--Canada just 'evolved' into our own, and not without a few snags ourself. PET (Pierre Trudeau) 'decides' to get our constitution over here from Britain--got 9 (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, they did not told the Queen to bugger off... because they did not have to; they got their own PM instead. Given that the Crown has little (if any) effective power, it is even better: getting independent whilst assuring a powerful (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes: <snip> (...) *If* I were to live in the USofA... (and that's a mighty big *if*)... I'd want to live in sunny SoCal... I love it when Craiggers does the "What's the weather like in Buffalo this (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 'Merican. Pronounce the "r" so far in the back of your throat that you have to swallow it. :-) Okay, so, America is difficult to swallow. You knew that. ;-) (...) I'd chalk that up on the silly side, and we have elections every year in any (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think that Can'eh'dians have *more* freedom than Am'aaar'icans.. We have our elections when we want, not just specifically every 4 years--we choose, therefore more freedom. (well, the party in power chooses... but that's neither here nor (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope, it is a fact. From oneworld.net: "America ranks last among all developed western nations in the amount of aid it provides foreign nations expressed as a percentage of its gross domestic product (GDP) about 0.08 percent, according to a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You don't think they are linked? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I said "weapons". (...) Nope. (...) OK, Eisenhower was wrong. (...) The debate is about WOMD. (...) I'll blame the US for giving it to Iraq, and having poor bio-secuity. (...) Sure. (...) LOL (...) Check your tax bill. (...) Indeed. I'll have (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In the "dingus" part of the thread it isn't important to make sense, have a coherent line of argument, or even stick to a singular theory as to why anything should happen. What *is important* is to merely bully your opinion over on people (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When the economics are driven by race and an undercurrent of societal racism (not in every single person, but as a demonstrable trend in cultural character), then the economics are a symptom of the underlying racism. The fact that you, along (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was thinking in terms of nuclear accidents-- part of the responsibility for utilizing nuclear technology is controlling it. And what of nuclear waste? Somehow I think the USSR didn't care as much for the environment as we did in this regard. (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And for the third time, I assert that you are speaking about economics, not race. But you have managed to bury my original objection to your initial post with a barrage of obfuscation. Well done. -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More of them have the "freedom" to go on holiday in Edinburgh [Scotland] than do non-whites. ;) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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found this interesting link (URL) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, but don't think that those nations are being singled out; much of the US population is living at Third World levels, and they don't get any help from the US-at-large, either. Dave! (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) c /literary/literally/ (...) That's my guess... (if world class == "average" or even "median") (...) Apparently we're offering some as we speak. (URL) see all of them so far: (URL) and go through the calendar to choose them...) I know, I know, (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As did the USA, France and the UK. So why is the USSR worse than the USA? (...) You are being obtuse again. (...) All that's debateble. General Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Japan was at the moment seeking some way to surrender with minimum loss of (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) B as in B, S as in S. The US government gives more in raw dollars than anyone (hardly "dire"), and that doesn't even count *private* giving... -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You: I inferred that white folks have more "freedoms". Well, what are they? -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, this is pure dogma. Read the text again. (...) 1) Who has been stopping companies investing in Cuba? 2) The USA has a dire record in offering development and humanitarian aid to developing countries [~1.25 dollars per U.S. citizen in (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I never said there are "US laws that limit freedoms according to race". Did I? It is you who are squirming by avoiding the point - despite the fact that it has been made by more than just me. Shut-up or Put-up. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The USSR denotated plenty of nuclear bombs. Or did you mean killing people at the same time? Yeah, we dropped 2 nukes (tiny by today's standards), but reluctantly. Had we a cache of bombs we would most certainly have provided a little (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Squirm. Please provide examples if you can of US laws that limit freedoms according to race. -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You literary make me laugh out loud. Scott, why do you suppose Cubans risk their lives almost daily to try and land on US shores? To escape world class healthcare and education?? You think Cuba is doing well, eh? Let's wait until Castro (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't forget Comrade Castro! Take a look at what communism provides for Cubans in terms of healthcare and education: (URL) years ago this system was being ridiculed everywhere. Now, the world is not so sure." Scott A (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Has it dropped "the bomb", has it used biological and chemical weapons the way the USA has? I think not. (...) Not quite right, but does the means justify the end? (...) No john, it's a fact. You know. I know it. It's a fact. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John, You are being obtuse again. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now ask: Q: Whose reasoning for use of nuclear weapons do you trust more-- Iraq or the US? A: ? -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, we won (the fight with the *former* USSR), but still wage the battle. -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> Please tell me that you are kidding here, because if you aren't, you are a looney. -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, you inferred wrongly. They have the same "freedoms" everyone else has. There is one law for everyone. (...) Give me an example of an American law that grants whites more freedoms than blacks. (...) Sounds like an economic issue to me as (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We are winning. It ain't over yet. There are still the PDRK and PRC to deal with... (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The former USSR. (...) You go, spin doctor. The cold war was a battle of idealogies-- Communism vs Capitalism. We won. As far as Israel goes, that is your POV and not fact; we just see things differently. -John (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A judicial branch that is beholden to the son of an ex-president doesn't seem like much of a check and balance, but in theory.... (...) I thought the X-Files was cancelled? (...) Wrong Texan (not that I'd count Mr. Preppy as a real Texan). (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting question / answer session: Q: Does Iraq have nuclear weapons capability? A: Probably (or close anyway), but not enough information. Q: Assuming they do, would they be prepared to use it in a war if they thought it justified? A: (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Total crap -- it would be true in a constitutional or purely theoretical system; alas, we have only the government that has been left to us. Plus, you act as if everything going on is above board, and it is fairly obvious that much goes on (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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