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Re: Vote against/for...
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Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:01:43 GMT
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > John, "responsible" is not the word I would use - name me a country that
> > > has a worse record with nuclear, biological and chemical weapons?
> > The former USSR.
> Has it dropped "the bomb", has it used biological and chemical weapons the
> way the USA has? I think not.
The USSR denotated plenty of nuclear bombs. Or did you mean killing people at
the same time? Yeah, we dropped 2 nukes (tiny by today's standards), but
reluctantly. Had we a cache of bombs we would most certainly have provided a
little demonstration to the Japanese leaders of their fate if they didn't
surrender immediately-- unfortunately we had only 2. And it is not as if we
didn't give them ample warning to avoid the attacks anyway.
But as long as we are talking about the USSR as some sort of twisted model for
the US to follow-- Stalin alone butchered more of his *own* citizens than we
ever did with nukes or the like combined.
BTW, in what way are you insinuating the US used bio and chem weapons?
> > You go, spin doctor. The cold war was a battle of idealogies-- Communism vs
> > Capitalism. We won.
> Not quite right, but does the means justify the end?
Why don't you ask that question of the Palestinian extremists?
> > As far as Israel goes, that is your POV and not fact; we just see things
> > differently.
> No john, it's a fact. You know. I know it. It's a fact.
Give me a break. I know NO such thing; it's NOT fact, so just drop it.
-John
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| (...) As did the USA, France and the UK. So why is the USSR worse than the USA? (...) You are being obtuse again. (...) All that's debateble. General Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Japan was at the moment seeking some way to surrender with minimum loss of (...) (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Has it dropped "the bomb", has it used biological and chemical weapons the way the USA has? I think not. (...) Not quite right, but does the means justify the end? (...) No john, it's a fact. You know. I know it. It's a fact. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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