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Re: Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
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Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:05:33 GMT
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Let me say that things happen for a reason, whether we agree or like it or
not. I am outraged by this tragedy and I hope that justice is served. I also
hope we don't too become indiscriminate murderers now that we've sadly been
given a taste of such brutality. As I said in other posts, the innocent
shouldn't be condemned for the sins of the leadership.

As far as the U.S./Israel angle, like it or not, Israel has imposed itself
upon the native population, stolen land and ruined the lives of over a
million people. Israel has invaded, occupied and oppressed a civilian
population through military force and America has supported Israel and
rejected the pleas of the Palestinians for decades. These are the facts.
Thus, the conditions for hatred toward our country were fostered by our
choice to support injustice.

What happened two days ago is the clearest message that our government
should seriously reconsider it's support for Israel, for the sake of our own
safety. I don't think we Americans should should live in fear because our
government chooses to support the Israeli occupation.

This is not appeasement in my opinion, nor a justification for acts of
terror and destruction. We'd be doing the right thing to say to Israel: "We
are not going to support you while you invade and occupy people and their
land, and bulldoze their homes. The American people believe in freedom and
democracy, not theft and murder, and we don't want to have anything to do
with it!" If our government cannot do this and learn that killing the
innocent, or contributing to it, is wrong, then more innocent American
civilians will be targeted, regardless of how safe we pretend we are.

It may well be that an attack of this magnitude may never occur again but
what's to stop smaller and even individual attacks. And it doesn't matter
since every individual's needless suffering is a great tragedy itself. Let
us seek to understand and work for common ground and lasting peace for the
whole world. If this thread is truly a about going after the root of
terrorism, then it is wise consider America's role and likely contribution
to the conditions that brought such indiscriminate violence back to us.

Dan



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  Re: Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
 
(...) the innocent shouldn't be condemned, only the guilty. (...) Israel is the only country in the middle east that stands for freedom and democracy - why is it a suprise to you, then, that the US supports it? Also, the only time Israel "attacked" (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
 
(...) But now the picture is far more complicated. If we climb down now and change our foreign policy suddenly, won't this send the tacit signal that terrorism is the best way to get what you want? For now, I agree with Larry. Find the nests of (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
 
To the people who think that the subject line isn't the right way to view what needs to be done now, I would invite you to suggest another course of action. Ignoring the problem isn't going to work. Appeasement isn't going to work. Sanctions aren't (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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