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Re: Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
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Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:18:26 GMT
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Daniel Jassim wrote:
Let me say that things happen for a reason, whether we agree or like it or
not. I am outraged by this tragedy and I hope that justice is served. I also
hope we don't too become indiscriminate murderers now that we've sadly been
given a taste of such brutality. As I said in other posts, the innocent
shouldn't be condemned for the sins of the leadership.

the innocent shouldn't be condemned, only the guilty.

This is not appeasement in my opinion, nor a justification for acts of
terror and destruction. We'd be doing the right thing to say to Israel: "We
are not going to support you while you invade and occupy people and their
land, and bulldoze their homes. The American people believe in freedom and
democracy, not theft and murder, and we don't want to have anything to do
with it!"

Israel is the only country in the middle east that stands for freedom and democracy - why is it a suprise to you, then, that the US supports it?  Also, the only time Israel "attacked" palestinians was in it's own defence.  Killing a terrorist who set up bombs and has already killed many people is not murder.

If our government cannot do this and learn that killing the
innocent, or contributing to it, is wrong, then more innocent American
civilians will be targeted, regardless of how safe we pretend we are.

yet again, the only people who are killing the innocent are terrorists.  Goverments taking action against them are only killing the guilty.  You can't say that the people in Sbarro in Jerusalem weren't innocent, and you can't say that terrorist masterminds are not guilty.

It may well be that an attack of this magnitude may never occur again but
what's to stop smaller and even individual attacks. And it doesn't matter
since every individual's needless suffering is a great tragedy itself. Let
us seek to understand and work for common ground and lasting peace for the
whole world. If this thread is truly a about going after the root of
terrorism, then it is wise consider America's role and likely contribution
to the conditions that brought such indiscriminate violence back to us.

I'm sure we all want world peace.  But saying (and I'm paraphrasing) "the US deserved what it got, because of it's world policy" is an attempt to justify the acts we have witnessed.  And that is _exactly_ what the Islamic Jihad and the Hamas said in their statments.

Dan



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  Re: Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
 
(...) It is a surprise to me: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I understand. All I can say is there is a cycle of violence between the Israelis and Palestinians and it is false to assume that it stems solely from violent acts on the part of the Palestinians. Israel is the invader and occupier, that's just (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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Let me say that things happen for a reason, whether we agree or like it or not. I am outraged by this tragedy and I hope that justice is served. I also hope we don't too become indiscriminate murderers now that we've sadly been given a taste of such (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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