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Re: Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
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Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:34:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
  But now the picture is far more complicated.  If we climb
  down now and change our foreign policy suddenly, won't this
  send the tacit signal that terrorism is the best way to get
  what you want?

I know what you're saying but I find little comfort in our government's
statements, filled with machismo and bravado, yet thin on addressing the
core of the issue. We'll send an even worse signal by resorting to war and
saying "America will do as it pleases now that the blood of it's people has
been spilled."

Who exactly is saying that?

So, for heaven's sake, let's go after the guilty as we said
and make no martyrs out of the innocent. After the perpetrators and
collaborators have been apprehended and subdued, we should seriously address
where our government's failures were with regard it's contribution to
frustration and hatred in much of the Arab world.

Yes, we should seriously address our meddling and intervention and
supporting the wrong sides (or any side of a no good guy conflict). But not
now. Now is not the time. Now is the time for disease treatment. The
bacteria infecting us must be stopped. Let us improve sanitary conditions
later, when the fever is under control.

As terrible and senseless
as things have been, they happened for a reason.

Yes, they did. bin Laden isn't human.  He renounced his humanity some time
ago. The terrorists who perpretrated this attack aren't human either.

Let me repeat (since in your offline note to me, which I will not repeat
here, it's too vile and too clueless, you indicated some trouble
understanding this concept...) The race will be better off without him and
those who choose to initiate force in this barbaric manner. People are
generally good but we must cull the herd of the bad ones when the bad ones
initiate aggression.

Once you renounce civilization you renounce the protection of it as well.
These terrorists have renounced. We will give due process because we are
better than they are, not because they are entitled to it.

No justification for this action is possible. None. Just as a rabid dog does
not justify his attack because he is diseased, so also whoever perpetrated
this cannot justify it. Just as the rabid dog must be put down, so also must
these terrorists be put down. One advantage: putting down one rabid dog
teaches no lesson to the other dogs. Such will not be the case here. Pay
attention, IRA. Pay attention, Hezbollah. Pay attention, Shining Path. Pay
attention, Ulster Unionists. And all the rest.

We should have figured it out earlier, we were fools for using him as a tool
to bedevil the Soviets, and we were fools for not paying attention to his
ravings, and Clinton was a fool for not picking him off when he had a
chance, and we've been lax and we let ourselves too easily be victims. But a
crime is NEVER the "fault" of the victim, no matter how negligent the victim
has been. This crime was not our fault, no matter what we did or did not do.

++Lar



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  Re: Rooting out nests of snakes and destroying them
 
(...) Is this what you think justice means? Scott A (23 years ago, 22-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I know what you're saying but I find little comfort in our government's statements, filled with machismo and bravado, yet thin on addressing the core of the issue. We'll send an even worse signal by resorting to war and saying "America will do (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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