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Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
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Thu, 31 May 2001 13:22:46 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
I would rather have a plague that wiped half the planet's population (or left
90% of the women infertile) than a catastrophe that might wipe us ALL out, or
take us below the sustainable population level.

  Tom, let me see if I understand your reasoning for suggesting the 90%
female infertility rate.  What you're suggesting seems to be:
  Given 100 fertile women and 100 fertile men, the effective maximum
(barring twins and/or technological intervention) number of children brought
forth in a 9-month period is 100.
  Given 100 fertile women and 100 men--90 of whom are sterile--the effective
maximum number of children brought forth in a 9-month period is also 100.
  However, given 100 women--90 of whom are sterile--and 100 fertile men (or
a billion, for that matter), the effective maximum number of children
brought forth in a nine-month period is 10.  Am I reading you right?
  At first glance I was a little put off by your suggestion (and it still
doesn't thrill me to think of it in anything but theoretical terms), but
upon consideration I realized that your math-reasoning seems sound.  I
mention this because others might read your 90% figure and react with the
same knee-jerk outrage that I felt (however, I read your post while I was at
home and wasn't able to post a reply until I got to work--when a cooler head
had prevailed).
  Again, I'm squeamish about the 90% figure as a real-world solution, but in
a thought-experiment it's not completely far-fetched.

     Dave!



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  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
Well, Chris mentioned the 90% number. As to what the percentage would really be in order to curtail our population explosion, who knows? I'm sure it could be calculated using the averages for twins, etc. But yeah, it's obviously only a thought (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) As Tom pointed out, I was the one who tossed that out originally. You did the math right and understand the reason. If you are controlling a population (of mamals, at least), the way to do so is to control the female reproduction. Good and bad (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) Sounds about right to me, and that's within (hopefully) my lifetime, so I consider that soon ;-) (...) Yeah, but that really sucks, doesn't it? I would rather have a plague that wiped half the planet's population (or left 90% of the women (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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