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| (...) So why is the USA & Canada so different on this? I know that there are other countries where guns are very common but gun deaths are very low (Sweden?). I found murder rates for the Americas (below), Canada is higher than my UK estimate of (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) It is a generalisation, but people in the areas Larry alludes to do not feel part of the "system" - they feel excluded from it. I know from personal experiences, that individuals in these areas are very reluctant to go to the police for help - (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Being a Puget Sound native (My home addresses in my lifetime have been Oak Harbor, Seattle, or Bellingham) I can tell you that jaywalking is practicly a capital offense in Seattle. OK, maybe not that bad. How did the old joke go, getting (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well...if people aren't safe, and the system is set up to prevent them from keeping themselves safe, and people generally believe that police keep them safe, then what's wrong with how Larry put it? Obviously it isn't (usually) the cops' (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I really would be interested in your justification for making the above comments, or was it just based on ill-informed rumour? If you can show that a UK crime "hot spot" is even comparable to one in your land, I truly will be enlightened. The (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Oh, sure, there's that stuff later in the evening. All in all, however, Seattle is one of the safer cities in my experience. LMK next time you're in town. Maybe you can stop by a SEALUG meeting. (...) Heh. Well, there is a certain reputation (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) All historical context aside, jackboots are pretty cool, and go a long way towards a sharp-looking uniform. It's an interesting (though mostly unreasolvable) question wether they had the jackboots in spite of, or because of, historical (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm not James, of course, but I was warned about being in downtown Seattle ( by the fish market, the area where the monorail lets out, etc) late at night. I happened to *be* downtown late at night soon after, and there were a lot of people (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) From what I've heard from Fiat owners, they were never examples of greatness. ;^) ~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| (...) You've been warned about Seattle? Really? What have people warned you about? Just curious, since I live in the Seattle area and I think it's pretty safe in general. ~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Richard makes some good points, Canada is indeed different than the US in many ways. So I snipped them. (...) Indeed. Given the above, can you help me reconcile the apparent contradiction in your slogan: (...) as this new fiat doesn't seem an (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Yep, I do not live in a gun culture. (...) I'm pretty sure it could do both. Think about this for a moment. Scott A (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Much of this conversation is dealing with U.S. and U.K. statistics, situations and stereotypes. Yet, the principle issue is restrictions and controls within ‘Canada.’ My nation is quite different from the U.S. in many key areas, and several of (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Surely any study of police productivity would be biased by varying levels of corruption. For instance in Sydney and Brisbane criminal activity has traditionally been kept under control by the police through mutually profitable compromises. So (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Of course, now that I think about it, if the washing machine is on spin cycle, I guess it would have considerable angular momentum. And if you were washing particularly stiff fabrics, the two factors together could very likely create a (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) That's why I think parts of the law are -stupid-, but parts of it to my mind make sense- such as requiring licences that have as a requirement, training. It comes down to the fact that we needed some changes to the law, but what we got was (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I think we're arguing about a matter of wording here - While it is true that you should never point a gun at a person without AT LEAST being in a state where it is "OK" _IF_ the gun does get fired and does kill (in a situation where the other (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm sorry but obviously you're not terribly aware of the nature of a moving bullet. From previous conversations, you're telling me the bullet cn go through a wall but not through a household washing machine? Think about this for a moment. (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The crux of marriage is indeed fidelity, duty, and commitment...but fidelity, duty and commitment are not owed by the betrothed merely to oneanother, but also to the moral absolutes which have pressing claim on their conduct. If you do not (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well, I believe the technical term here in Canada is Attempted Murder, or at least Assault with a Weapon. My firearms instructors included members who had served in all kinds of nice international vacation spots, such as Cyprus, Yogo, (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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