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Re: My Gun Control Rant
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Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:54:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Sandlin writes:
> James Powell at wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca wrote:
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> > Even traveling through some parts of the US that
> > I have been warned about (Seattle, LA), I have NEVER felt afraid enough to be
> > worried that I was not armed.
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> You've been warned about Seattle? Really?
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> What have people warned you about?
I'm not James, of course, but I was warned about being in downtown Seattle (
by the fish market, the area where the monorail lets out, etc) late at
night. I happened to *be* downtown late at night soon after, and there were
a lot of people selling access to various victimless crimes, some of whom
I'd rather my daughter wouldn't propose as a potential suitor, but mostly
harmless in appearance. Still, I did feel a bit less safe and did keep my
eyes about me, did move with purpose, did avoid gawking, all the stuff that
they say to do.
I happened to strike up a conversation with two jackbooted(1) police
officers who said that their impression was that as long as you weren't
perceived as a disgruntled customer or competitor, the enterpreneurs would
leave you alone. Right after I talked to them, they started hassling an
otherwise apparently upright citizen for crossing the street against a light
so I dunno how much veracity I'd give them.
But I thought Seattle, on the whole, was safer than many other cities. All
cities have better and worse parts. There are areas in GR (South Division
St. for example) that I would not go to unless I was carrying. There are
areas in NYC I stay out of completely. There are areas in London I was
explicitly warned away from, and I'm not talking about the high tourist,
high pickpocket areas like Covent Garden, etc, but more the southeastern
suburbs where the police do an especially poor job of keeping people safe.
I enjoy seeing the sights. But if you go to a strange city, keep your wits
about you. That's good advice even at home, of course.
1 - as in, that's what they were wearing, honest. Great big huge brown
leather boots that went to their knees and were outside their pants,
nightsticks, riot helmets, and guns.
++Lar
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| (...) All historical context aside, jackboots are pretty cool, and go a long way towards a sharp-looking uniform. It's an interesting (though mostly unreasolvable) question wether they had the jackboots in spite of, or because of, historical (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Oh, sure, there's that stuff later in the evening. All in all, however, Seattle is one of the safer cities in my experience. LMK next time you're in town. Maybe you can stop by a SEALUG meeting. (...) Heh. Well, there is a certain reputation (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I really would be interested in your justification for making the above comments, or was it just based on ill-informed rumour? If you can show that a UK crime "hot spot" is even comparable to one in your land, I truly will be enlightened. The (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Being a Puget Sound native (My home addresses in my lifetime have been Oak Harbor, Seattle, or Bellingham) I can tell you that jaywalking is practicly a capital offense in Seattle. OK, maybe not that bad. How did the old joke go, getting (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You've been warned about Seattle? Really? What have people warned you about? Just curious, since I live in the Seattle area and I think it's pretty safe in general. ~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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