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  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) I would have brought this up at some point in my debate but it opens up a whole uncharted can-o-worms along with it.....but I do appreciate you willing to dive in :) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Then I guess you should register when you buy alchohol products. Isn't around 30% of traffic deaths alchohol related. I don't consume any alchohol, so it doesn't affect me. Let's make it as hard to get as possible. How about cigarette (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) _I_ think you are full of the same stuff that farmers spread over fields, if they own cows. :) :). At least, as far as this issue goes. Will this register do anything to stop criminal activity? Yes, it will. Will it do what $300 million worth (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
He's not much of a victim - it was HIS choice to take the risk of causing a pregnancy (even IF birth control methods were used) - no sympathy from me there. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) What if you miss? Does your shooter have enough power to force a bullet through wall of your home? What then? The fact is, statistics show that you are more likely to use your gun on yourself or your family, than you are a criminal. Do you (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  California Power "Deregulation"
 
The media in the US are touting the situation in CA as a "failure of deregulation". (URL) is it really? Let's review: Utilities used to produce their own power. But building plants to keep up with demand got hard for them. So some thought to open (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Well I'm not sure I agree. I bought my revolver (and the hollowpoint bullets I keep in the speed loader) based on my evaluation of how much bang for the buck I got. Those hollowpoints will stop a person dead in his tracks. I would have shot (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) True, but it doesn't matter. Guns are not designed to kill people. That's just reactionary liberal disarmament garbage. Guns are designed to sell. Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) A small but probably non-zero number. So what? Guns kill a few innocents, so do TVs. Worse yet, TVs sap the intellect and ambition from millions every day. In fact, I have read of correlational studies suggesting that TV exposure correlates to (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) _We_ do mind registering them! At least those of us who love liberty do. Further, there are at least several activities for which guns are much more useful than cars. Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
I've held out of this one but must reiterate these points. (...) There are two main threads when arguing in favor of gun ownership. Tim is going down one thread: that there are legitimate reasons for owning guns besides the one for which they are (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) The valid justification is this: The government eventually wants a completely disarmed populace. If they tried to pass laws that just forbid all guns in Canada, they would be strung up in the streets. So they just want to record where all guns (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) I've been waiting to see the new thread. Did I need to respond to get it? If so, then shoot. (Bad choice of words given the other thread :-) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) I think that something we've been forgetting is that the "deadbeat" might very well be the victim too. There is no knowing that he knows there is a child in the world of his genetic lineage. Just a point, Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) What a device is _primarily_ designed to do and what one does with it, in my mind, are two very different things. The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter if a pencil is designed to write on paper with, you _could_ buy it for the express (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) To my mind the difference is that pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats etc have a primary purpose which does not involve maiming or death. I would trust a six year old with a pencil. If you want to own a machine that is explicitly (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Family values?
 
(...) More specifically, why should the child be given greater consideration than a more-or-less arbitrarily chosen man? Remember--in this thought experiment we're not discussing a man who has agreed knowingly to act as the father-figure for the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) <opinion> So I guess that means you want to register bows, arrows, slingshots, BB guns, pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats, golf clubs, mixing spoons, sticks, branches, etc, etc, etc... After all, these are all dangerous too - you can (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Thanks. I will argue the point of owning guns for protection no further. I personally don't agree with some of the opinions expressed in the www.handguncontrol.com article, but I can't argue with statistics - because one can always argue the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Ideally everyone would be happy - however that would mean that there IS no minority because if both were represented all of our interests would be the. Since that isn't the case a democratic government is in place to represent the majority - (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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