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Re: My Gun Control Rant
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Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:08:25 GMT
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Paul Baulch wrote:
> Tim Culberson wrote in message <3A55160C.9A731E80@yahoo.com>...
> >
> > Well...as of a couple days ago if you own guns and live in Canada and
> > didn't apply for a liscence (for the guns you already own of course) you
> > are now a criminal subject to fines or jail time. In 2 years if you are
> > still a law-abiding citizen and you haven't registered each and every
> > firearm that you own then you own prohibited property in Canada.
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> <opinion>
> Good! Guns are freaking dangerous and the more that have their ownership
> known, and the less that get owned, the better!
> </opinion>
<opinion>
So I guess that means you want to register bows, arrows, slingshots, BB guns,
pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats, golf clubs, mixing spoons, sticks,
branches, etc, etc, etc...
After all, these are all dangerous too - you can beat someone's head into the
sidewalk and kill them quite effectively too. Should we register sidewalks?
</opinion>
> > Anyone with the least bit of sense who has seriously thought about this
> > law realizes that it is useless in all aspects and will do absolutely
> > nothing AT ALL towards it's official mandate - to reduce crimes commited
> > with firearms.
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> It's obviously going to reduce legal sales of firearms, which obviously
> reduces the number of firearms overall, which obviously reduces the number
> of gun-related crimes - gee, that line of reasoning was, well, obvious. ;-)
> How much sense were you exercising?
Where is it obvious that LEGAL gun sales are directly tied to ILLEGAL
gun-related crimes? Not many criminals buy a gun legally and register it - that
would be rather stupid, don't you think?
> > Since when is a criminal going to register his/her gun?
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> Isn't there a flawed assumtion underlying this rhetoric?
> "The only people who commit gun-related crimes are people who wouldn't have
> registered them in the first place, and are therefore already criminals
> anyway".
What is flawed about that? The only flaw I see is "The only people" - it should
read "The vast majority".
Registration of ALL guns will just force illegal gun sales even further
underground and harder to dig out, and make LEGAL gun sales much more
burdensome.
> > What is the
> > weapon of choice in almost ALL crimes involving firearms? A 30-30
> > hunting rifle? A .22 single shot? No, obviously not. Most crimes are
> > committed with handguns, and in order to legally own a handgun in Canada
> > it must be registered anyway - this has been the case for many years.
>
> "Almost all. Most." So it's wrong to reduce a nonzero (and probably
> substantial) number of gun-related injuries and DEATHS, by forcing people to
> do something as modest as register their guns? Wow, so much for human
> rights.
Then I demand you register ANYTHING you own that you can pick up, and is
reasonably stiff/hard, because it's dangerous. I want you to register every pen
and pencil you own. Oh, BTW, we'll charge $10 fee per pen/pencil.
> > Gun control - coming soon to a country near you!
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> Welcome to a safer society - you'll get used to it. So have they prohibited
> the personal use of fireworks in your country yet?
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
> LUGNET member 164
> http://www.geocities.com/doctorshnub/
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| (...) To my mind the difference is that pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats etc have a primary purpose which does not involve maiming or death. I would trust a six year old with a pencil. If you want to own a machine that is explicitly (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Tim Culberson wrote in message <3A55160C.9A731E80@y...oo.com>... (...) <opinion> Good! Guns are freaking dangerous and the more that have their ownership known, and the less that get owned, the better! </opinion> (...) It's obviously going to reduce (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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