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(...) They may thank us for getting rid of Hussein, but they don't all want us to stay. The best analogy I've heard of this is shortly after the fall of Baghdad when an Iraqi citizen walked up to a US soldier and said something to the effect of, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) We'd lose any remaining credibility if we just annexed them into the US (not to mention the added drawback of being permanently stuck with them until either we or they are all dead, which is really a greater cost than the oil is worth), and we (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This begs the question - with over 6 BILLION humans on this earth, do we REALLY need to make it easier for Breeders to spit out more humans than they should be? The earth would be far better off if we'd figure a *humane* way to scale the world (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Seriously, whom do you suppose we are fighting in Iraq? You are simply clueless. (...) Again, you have no idea what is going on in Iraq. The Iraqis want us to stay, not as a conqueror, but as a protector. The overwhelming majority of Iraqis (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why don't you leave the exogesis of the Bible to those who know what they are talking about (as you obviously don't). (...) The point is moot, to Christians at least. Jesus' teaching on the subject is clear, as He quotes from Genesis (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) True, the Iraqi situation doesn't directly have anything to do with global terrorism, but here's an analogy-- You're a police officer Your duty is to protect the innocent civilians. You and your fellow citizens see a bully acting against the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Seems"? Is that like saying that water "seems" wet? (...) This is exactly the reason why many powerful nations have laws specifically prohibiting themselves from negotiating with terrorists. It gives the politicians a legal and quasi-moral (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is forbidden, but not very strongly. It's basically under optional enforcement, so the US can revoke your citizenship whenever it's convenient as long as it can be proven that you've done something that warrants such action. Technically the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The term "polygamy" has the advantage of covering both polygyny and polyandry (and being a term that most people have actually heard of). Yes, the bible really only deals with polygyny, but it can be politically advantageous to lump them (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Would a quick victory after (say) 2 months of conflict have emboldened Bush? Scott A (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry for that, I normally post through a newsreader. I forgot to change to "plain text". (...) I agree, the principle of the stickman is of course very old. But the look of the character and movements, he might have a point there. (...) You (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How do you figure? The war in Iraq doesn't have anything to do with global terrorism. In Iraq, terrorism is merely a tool to repel the invader. We should either conquer them or get the hell out. Chris (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Clearly. Article 3, section 2: "The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, etc." To abridge this function of the judiciary would indeed require an amendment. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The Philippines were leaving anyway; the kidnapping just hastened things a little. They may well have been part of Bush’s Coalition of the Coerced; but I expect their ~50 troops where nothing but a token. (...) I agree, but I expect the amount (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) It's amazing that I just agreed with everything that was stated by Dave! You cannot have sexual discrimination in laws. A law forbidding same-sex marriage is sexual discrimination and takes away rights from individuals. Dave K (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) These questions should have already been asked, and were asked, by those that compared this to the similarities to the Vietnam war--but those were brushed aside as 'unpatriotic'. The difference here is that, whereas the US evacuation in '75 (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My objection is to the use of the terms "activist judge" or "judicial activism" as short-hand subsitutions for actual debate. Too often Conservative pundits have decried judicial rulings as "activist" without presenting any legitimate (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What is the war for? What would constitute a victory? A defeat? (...) Is that to say that it is somehow critically important for the US to win every war? Is it possible that it would be good for the American gestalt psyche for us to lose a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is exactly my point-- by what reasoning do you choose to define marriage soley between 2 parties? On what basis do you make this discrimination? I have chosen to define it as 1 man and 1 woman. You choose "two-party". Someone else might (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Most of you know I am no fan of our present little war. However: (URL) that seems the wrong way to exit. Those who point out that this action shows that threatening hostages to try to influence countries is now more likely rather than less have a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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