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  Why Shrub is a Radical, or Don't Listen to Me -- Pay Attention to What Bush Sr. Has Done...
 
For those that think the neo-con takeover is just business as usual, I give you this opinion piece: BUSH SR. SENDS NOT-SO-SUBTLE MESSAGE WITH AWARD TO KENNEDY (URL) When it was announced (with amazingly little fanfare) that the pugnaciously (...) (21 years ago, 4-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
(...) Yes, of course they do. And that's not always a bad thing except when it gets kinda rabidly slanted a particular way. I try to post stuff that is at least semi-objective from a huge variety of sources. Sure, some of it is just (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
(...) I would tend to think that this line of argument can be used against many of the sources (both factual and cultural) cited here on a regular basis... NPR, the NYT, Fox, The Economist, The Guardian, DemocraticUnderground etc, all have (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
(...) Although bias should not automatically be assumed, a media source that has demonstrated unrelenting bias (such as Ann Coulter or Michael Moore) then it is not unreasonable to suspect bias in any given piece. That's not to say that such bias (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
You mean the National Review is not a known right-wing rag run by William Buckley? Haven't I stated my own opposition to the Dems clearly or regularly enough? Why don't you do somehting useful like respond to this thread: (URL) The "Evil Dictator" (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
(...) Classic! Who cares if the article appeared on Barney's newsletter? If you are going to bother to comment, why not address the specifics in the article? (...) Now that is "offensive". (...) For sure. Totally. I guess that the reality of Detroit (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
(...) I noticed Ann Coulter stuff being advertised there, amongst a host of other offensive material. What can I say? The only thing I might want from Ann Coulter has nothing to do with listening to her opinions and might even involve a blindfold -- (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
(...) Without commenting on the article on the whole (since it deals in matter that I haven't researched), I note with interest that Mr. Payne is among the bunch that loves to credit a Republican President for economic recovery while blaming (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
 
(URL) Henry Payne's problem in this otherwise well written essay (living in MI I can attest to the truth of much of what he says) is that in proving the Dems to be pikers yet again, he feels that it follows without proof that the GOP is therefore (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Uh-oh, Bad News for Bald One
 
(...) For me, I try to work on a cohesive and comprehensive 'moral compass' in which you do what you can, don't sweat the stuff you can't, and try to understand the difference. That about it in a very tightly wrapped nutshell. If you get 'yer (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Uh-oh, Bad News for Bald One
 
(...) (URL) (...) I do like this particular story. I'm content with the probability that there are supreme beings who are to us as we are to ants. But I have a problem accepting a being as worthy of worship who destroys those whose capacity is so (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Uh-oh, Bad News for Kooties...
 
(...) If, as the Good Book says, the laws are written on the hearts of man, I'll take my chances following my heart rather than some clergyman's ideas. If the church's number one priority at this time is debating 'women in office' (CRC), debating (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Uh-oh, Bad News for Kooties...
 
...following his own moral compass... (2 URLs) -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Wow, digging around newsgroups leads to things like this...
 
kakistocracy (kak-uh-stock'-ruh-see) n. government by the worst people. [from Greek kakistos "worst," superlative of kakos "bad" + cratos "rule, sway, authority"]. From the Least I could Do "Word of the day..." Thought of Dubya for some strange (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: snip (...) Sorry again--this was suppose to say 'Slackers Guild has discussions on specific posts...' (...) Off my mark today... (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
(...) Sorry--you're right--TMB is a blog, my bad... there was a discussion group at one time, but I don't think it's up now. The rest have discussions on specific posts--basically receeding posts... And the DU has the same. I think the rest have (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: snip (...) Sinfest, LICD, and at one time, Helen, Sweetheart of the Internet. That's all on-line, except for comics related to Everquest... Dave K (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The "Evil Dictator" Excuse Put to Rest
 
(...) True, but only if the situation remains the same; the same action may yield different results if the environment changes! (...) Despite trivial bureaucratic similarities, it should be clear at this point that that Democrats and Republicans are (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
(...) Maybe she became: (URL) Honey Hellfire> on (URL) Radio Free Satan>! Anyway, some of these are news/opinion/blog sites right? I don't see discussion forums in all cases... -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
(...) It's the owners board - they are not obligated to allow you to use it as a sounding board, unless they have specifically stated otherwise (TOS, possibly for a fee). Personally, I wouldn't participate in a service that did editing. (...) If the (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The "Evil Dictator" Excuse Put to Rest
 
(...) If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got. What people need to do: Stop passively voting demopublican, for starters, and get involved in local politics failing that, if the encroachment of civil rights (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
(...) Ah, but that's different. If the material is published externally and editing causes it to seriously misrepresent what was said by another, that's certainly actionable... it's somewhere in the slander/libel/defamation of character area (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The "Evil Dictator" Excuse Put to Rest
 
(...) Move? I dunno...are they accepting U.S. refugees in Canada still? I have lived places where I was literally surrounded by maniacs. I have been attacked on the streets more than once. Everyone from a street thug to the thug in the White House (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The partisian trap in California
 
(...) The Voters (not me) ran Jesse out on a rail. *They* didn't respect his performance *as a politcian* (i.e. he had no crediblity based on actual performance). Take it up with them. -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson on Copyright and Patent
 
(...) Jeez-louieeeez, yes it could! Learn to paragraph, Tom! A dense body of text like that on a computer screen is unreadable. -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The "Evil Dictator" Excuse Put to Rest
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: snip lots of thought provoking stuff (...) It may not be your beautiful house, but you're stuck living in it. That is the unfortunate part. But how do you correct that? Dave K (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
(...) I read a "Misanthropic Bitch" article once in which she wrote an article for the school paper--the paper's editor edited her article to the point where it stated the opposite of her intent. Maybe I'll try to dig it up. (...) A good topic for (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  The "Evil Dictator" Excuse Put to Rest
 
Tony Blair's new friend Britain and the US claim a moral mandate - and back a dictator who boils victims to death (URL) There are over 6,000 political and religious prisoners in Uzbekistan. Every year, some of them are tortured to death. Sometimes (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
(...) Very likely, yes. Journalists are known to edit interviews and such. The problem becomes one of who owns the forum versus misrepresenting someone's views. I'd say that it might be actionable if someone's views are savagely distorted and have (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The 1st....
 
(...) Seems pretty cut and dried to me. What rights did the posters purchase from the owner of the publishing venue (the owner of the privately owned BB)? Assuming the owner is in the US that's all that matters, posters nationality is irrelevant. (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The 1st....
 
Here's a topic for your consideration-- I'm reading some other NG's, and there's a hotly debated issue--the NG is privately owned by the web owners, and, as such, they believe they can edit the content of posted messages for language and other (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The partisian trap in California
 
(...) Jesse Ventura was also a former NAVY SEAL, who has served his country to his utmost. Show the guy some respect before you criticize him, as he is quite possibly the most credible politician out there. -HRH (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson on Copyright and Patent
 
(...) Now this is a good way to wrap it up :) I concur with the above. Thanks Hoppy. Dave K (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Jefferson on Copyright and Patent
 
(...) One of the definitions of "religious" is "extremely scrupulous or conscientious." That's how you get the term "conscientious objector." Basically, the phrase just exempts someone with a strong philosophical objection to keeping or using arms. (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Jefferson on Copyright and Patent
 
(...) <snip> (...) This is a good read. <snip> (...) What if I have a problem with bearing arms that has nothing to do with religious scruples? :p (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Jefferson on Copyright and Patent
 
Thomas Jefferson to Isaac McPherson 13 Aug. 1813Writings 13:333--35 (URL) It has been pretended by some, (and in England especially,) that inventors have a natural and exclusive right to their inventions, and not merely for their own lives, but (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Short Hover Bus MOC
 
(...) sorry, still don't understand, different how? Are you ostracised for riding a lengthily challenged bus? Tim (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: recognise yourself here?
 
(...) That would make you an (URL) Me... I'm one of the ones who goes off at a tangent but I can't decide which one tim (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Holy crap!
 
(...) As can play^H^H^H^Hbuilding with LEGO bricks. But as a form of meditation I prefer music (playing, listening, laughing at.....) ROSCO (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Holy crap!
 
(...) Marginalized by me? I thought it all great - not quite what I expected from The Angry Young Man. Dave may not like it, but I do. It all fits into a neo-pagan Gaiea world view. I suppose it fits into alot of religions - except for the bit about (...) (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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