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Re: Detroit's woes, unaddressed by the Dems
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Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:35:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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I would tend to think that this line of argument can be used against many of
the sources (both factual and cultural) cited here on a regular basis... NPR,
the NYT, Fox, The Economist, The Guardian, DemocraticUnderground etc, all
have “unrelenting bias” do they not?
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Yes, of course they do. And that’s not always a bad thing except when it gets
kinda rabidly slanted a particular way. I try to post stuff that is at least
semi-objective from a huge variety of sources. Sure, some of it is just
opinion/editorial from the liberal side of things -- but I defy people to
actually find fault with much of what is said from that quarter of late. Lot’s
of stuff on civil rights, this BS war, etc. All well-reasoned regardless of who
is saying it.
BTW, my most scathing attacks on the economy comes by way of cobbling together
stuff together from Bill Moyers who is himself quoting The Economist! So what,
now we don’t trust our right-wing free market sources any longer? I guess it
just depends on whether they are saying something that sounds about right or
just slinging partisan ****. We have to stop corporate looting! The taxpayer is
picking up the tab whether it’s the S&L scandal, energy crisis thievery, or
Wal-Mart sending it’s workers off to collect foodstamps.
Yes, the economy is in terrific shape. Can we toss another $87 billion on the
grill? I mean, we might as well burn it for all the good it will do the average
american...
The author was using a very tiny piece of information for his opener that I am
not convinced is true at all. We have a VERY mixed bag economically right now.
And neither the Democrats or Republicans should be taking any bows. I have
other sticking points too -- gas guzzling SUVs will save Detroit, eh? I didn’t
know that. Our reliance on oil is at least part of the reason for the Iraq
debacle -- if not most of the reason, if the truth be told. How about Detroit
getting better at building something else? Welfare reform? A lot of people just
drop off the rolls after a while -- they are simply ineligible and uncounted. Is
it not so? Whenever I get to an inner city somewhere I see homeless persons by
the dozens. We started seeing a huge increase in the homeless when Reagan
decided the mentally ill were getting too good a deal and denied them the care
of the federal govt. as wards of the state. I mean, if Title 42 doesn’t grant
the status of “ward of the state” for a crazy person -- to whom does it apply?
All these homeless persons -- that’s not really something I remember seeing so
much as a child. Oh, I could go on and on...
Frankly, I thought we agreed on the bigger picture. I don’t see the Republican
side of this stuff as being any better than the percieved Democratic failure on
the same issues. If your bigger point is that we need something checked under
“other” you know I am in 100% agreement. I can’t wait for Libertarians to take
over a state for example -- Heck, I’m one of the ones that posted about that
fantasy maybe becoming reality. I love that idea!
-- Hop-Frog
P.S. writing quite quickly here, it will be either nonsense or better than
usual...
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| (...) I would tend to think that this line of argument can be used against many of the sources (both factual and cultural) cited here on a regular basis... NPR, the NYT, Fox, The Economist, The Guardian, DemocraticUnderground etc, all have (...) (21 years ago, 30-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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