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(...) Really? So you're not saying that there's an absolute "wrongness" in such a marriage? I confess, that surprises me. And if our culture evolved (despite the best efforts of hardcore traditionalists), then you'd agree that there's nothing (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Then we disagree. (...) Cultural values. (...) As far as we (or they) were able to ascertain God's will. I start from a point that God is Absolute Morality, Absolute Goodness. Any perception of God that is less than that reflects (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) I think that any progression of society necessitates us being on, average, good, or there will be no healthy progression. I have to rely on my fellow person to do the work that I cannot do in (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) 1. The Israelites were supposed to keep themselves pure. Allowing worshipers of foreign gods to remain alive in their midst would corrupt them and lead them into idolatry. They of course didn't do a very good job of this; otherwise there (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolutely, if they're both legally consenting adults. If the problems inherent in genetic problems inbreeding can be overcome, I don't even know why they shouldn't be allowed to have children. Aside from these genetic issues, on what basis (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I couldn't say for sure, but I rather imagine the Rus were followers of the Norse gods. I just can't imagine a bunch of Vikings being secular humanists. :-) -->Bruce<-- League of Green-Eyed Odin's Advocates (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Blinkered Bigot! The Bible is not a factual document; it is a book of faith! (...) Hypocrite! Everyone get that? The Bible means whatever (the atheist) Richard Marchetti says it means. (...) The Bible, especially the OT, is anything but (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, because his statement is hopelessly vague and unclear. How can you compare a religion with a government? It's apples and oranges. But you are absolutely correct that I believe Christianity is superior to other religions for me. I know (in (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If I may wager a guess, I would infer that you yourself identify Christianity (specifically, the version to which you adhere) as superior (for you) in some way to all other faiths and non-faiths. If it were not, then why would you follow your (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It still worries me that that guy was allowed to fly a plane... Scott A (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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You're so far gone, there is no way to reply to that. No matter what I might state next you will insist that you can "interpret" the Bible in such a way as to reveal either an error in it, or in my interpretation of it. Everyone get that? The Bible (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You are kidding, right? (...) Hmmm. So you are telling me that you know that exact nature of God? (...) That they perceived God was and whether God actually was are 2 very different things. (...) What are you implying here? That you understand (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You confuse me. What is the difference? (...) Again you confuse me. Superior in what way? (...) Again with the confusion. Laws just don't pop up out of thin air. They are based on the morality and sensibility of a given society or culture. (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) When you combine this with (URL) you get part of MAD magazine's article: MAD's Deck of 52 least wanted Americans. One of which is the 2004 Democratic presidental nominee: Whether it be Al, Bob, Joe, or Rick, you want a loser take your pick. (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(7 URLs) What can I add to our national disgrace? -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Lenny, Christians would point to passages such as this from Mark 14: 61Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" 62"I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the (...) (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thanks ROSCO. That brought a smile. Go git 'em, boys! Dave K -"I'm laughing at the superior intellect"--Adm JTK, ST:TWOK (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, your clothing won't get you there as fast, but if you wear the bullet train, you'll probably be overdressed. Dave! (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Apparently so, Dave! (...) Sure, Dave! ALL you have to do is let me get the last word, Dave! That's really not so hard, you know, Dave! (speaking of debates (internal in this case), I'm torn between taking the bullet train or taking more (...) (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't care enough to research the full breadth of Ms. Nagorka's work (which I likewise find disappointingly pedestrian), but the passage you cite strikes me as a critique by Debs & Co. rather than a formal declaration of intent by the (...) (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sometimes the sarcastic remark, intended to mock when uttered by the speaker, actually contains the germ of the truth. If the legitimacy of our election process is imperiled as greviously as these articles allege (and it's pretty scary stuff, (...) (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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For some other perspectives on this: (URL) Clean up Sculpture on Aisle 9!> (these include people who purport to work for HD, and people who purport to be the gallery owner I cited in my last post, and a bunch of other voices) This has been an (...) (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, too bad people won't actually wake up, they just go to movies with that as the central theme. Intellectually and emotionally inoculated against resistance, they can continue on the heavy dose of soma... ~~~...~~~ Wake Up by Rage Against (...) (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) From (URL) (one of the links given in the article): " Ms. Nagorka's use of Home Depot as off-site site underscores an element of social critique present in the work: which is more suitable as a matrix within which to make works of art, the (...) (21 years ago, 14-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh well, if you can't fight the corporations with your vote, at least y'all have your guns, right? ROSCO (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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All the President's Votes? (URL) A Quiet Revolution is Taking Place in US Politics. By the Time It's Over, the Integrity of Elections Will be in the Unchallenged, Unscrutinized Control of a Few Large - and Pro-Republican - Corporations. Andrew (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It seemed stunningly obvious to me that in large part you decided that the artist and NPR were indulging in some sort of anti-corporate crusade in regards to this particular case, evidence that I simply did not see. You've repeated the charge (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Take your time with a response, if any. LEGOWORLD understandably takes precedence over OT ruminations... (...) The bogging appears to focus on *how wrong* her act was/is, rather than on whether or not it is wrong in some absolute sense. To (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am pressed for time, lots of LEGOWORLD prep I gotta do, so... briefly... (if such is possible) The original post I made sort of took as a given (because it was stunningly obvious to me, anyway) that what she's doing is morally wrong, and was (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can't comment on Mr. Schlkbrnd's patronage, but I think you've otherwise made your strongest point. If she's making a profit at HD's expense, then HD is within its rights to try to recoup its share of that profit (and that's in addition to (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think so. Hmm. You've come up with a good counterexample, at least on the surface. The easy counter is to discuss intent, your intent presumably was to buy the items til you changed your mind, while she (being an HD hater with a (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me see if I understand this. If I go into a store and put a LEGO set in my cart, walk around for an hour or so, and then return that LEGO set to a shelf very near where I'd first picked it up, then I've committed a crime? (...) That's a (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In general, or at specific naff implementations? (...) I'm not sure quite how far back to go to answer this. Do you deny that it's even possible for a private firm to do something more efficiently than a government? If you do, we have no basis (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I'm not really being relevant. Just a bit p****d off with the government privatising and contracting out stuff. I can't see how it can cost less or be better as at the end of the day some of the money has to go to shareholders. In the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How about them? In a free market, they won't be in business very long, will they? (...) Perhaps you can elaborate a bit on what exactly you're getting at. (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Why isn't this group called off-topic.USpolitics? Tim Mind you it does give me an outlet when I'm feeling annoyed and I fcan stand back and laugh as well :) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I absolutely agree that major corporations more often than not are run for the benefit of management and not the stockholders. They do it in a variety of ways, too. Only recently have the stockholders started to question the huge salaries and (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) how about companies that are run for the benefit of the stock/shareholders to the detriment of service to the customer? This is endemic in companies that supply services to the public sector, especially where the service was previously (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I've posted links to Hanson stuff before, and he's probably one of my favorites at NRO (not exactly a hotbed of balanced reporting or opinions) as he puts things into interesting perspectives even if I don't always agree with him. (URL) final (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. Fair enough. And as a most minor among minor shareholders my opinion doesn't count for much. (to management, speaking as a shareholder). However (since this tiny thing is veering off in many different directions) would you agree or (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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