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Re: Art? or Theft? or just signs that NPR is damaged.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:36:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > > > You are comparing a prosecutable crime with a non-crime. They are free
> > > > to toss her from the store if they find her activity inappropriate,
> > >
> > > Or prosecute. Which I think you're conceding. (or if not, please show why
> > > it's not a crime to convert property to use the owner doesn't intend or
> > > interfere with the flow of commerce on private property)
Let me see if I understand this. If I go into a store and put a LEGO set in my
cart, walk around for an hour or so, and then return that LEGO set to a shelf
very near where I'd first picked it up, then I've committed a crime?
> OK, fair enough. But I think you have agreed, at least, that people in
> stores do not have carte blanche to do with store property as they wish,
> right?
That's a well-spun summary of the issue, I think. Obviously this person isn't
free to engage in largescale alterations of inventory, but that's not what she's
doing. Instead, she is rearranging a small portion of the store's inventory, in
much the same way that I have moved one paving stone to get at another one
better suited to my purchasing tastes. I expect that, at some point, you've
done something very similar, and you've therefore committed the same "crime" as
the "artist" in question. The difference between your crime and hers is in
degree, not kind.
> > Prosecuting someone for rearranging but
> > not actually harming stock would be laughed out of court.
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> Today. Hence my criticism of social mores. A certain level of vandalism
> seems to be acceptable in today's society, apparently.
Alternatively, one might say that certain extreme definitions of "vandalism"
have been appropriately removed from common parlance.
Though I would agree that any injury she might suffer as a result of creating
her "art" is entirely her own liability, just as she is entirely liable for any
injuries that might result to other customers or to employees.
Dave!
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