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Subject:	Re: Art? or Theft? or just signs that NPR is damaged.
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:33:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: > > > > I fail to see where she steals anything in the store. She just rearranges the > > > stock into interesting, if ephemral, shapes. > > > > Which someone has to clean up. That's a theft of labor (the cleanup) as well as > > stealing use of the materials (the pieces are not available for sale while she's > > "using" them) as well as hinderance of trade (while she's "sculpting", it's > > harder to move around in the aisles near her) and trespass (she is not in the > > store for an approved purpose). > > This seems to be your opinion more than the management of Home Depot, which seem > to view it as a mild annoyance at the worst. Meaning that they're not doing their job... we have an endemic problem in the US with management tending to ignore the actual owners of the company, and this is just one more example, albeit minor. > > > > > > (remember, conversion of stolen property doesn't have to be *permanent*. If you > > steal my car, take a joy ride, and then give it back, you've still stolen my > > car... even if you topped off the gastank before you returned it) > > You are comparing a prosecutable crime with a non-crime. They are free to toss > her from the store if they find her activity inappropriate, Or prosecute. Which I think you're conceding. (or if not, please show why it's not a crime to convert property to use the owner doesn't intend or interfere with the flow of commerce on private property) That they choose not to prosecute doesn't make it a non crime. > so it seems a non-issue. To you. To me, it's symptomatic of something bigger.

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		Re: Art? or Theft? or just signs that NPR is damaged.
(...) It's a little hard to take this too seriously, but I'll try just for a moment of distraction... But first, let's make some things clear: 1. HD has terrible service 2. HD is usually very understaffed 3. HD is actually a dangerous place to shop (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

		Re: Art? or Theft? or just signs that NPR is damaged.
(...) No, as in meaning that your opinion that there is a problem that needs to be dealt with is not shared (currently) by the various managers involved. (...) Prosecute: no, I'm not conceding that, except as a consequence of the artist not bowing (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Art? or Theft? or just signs that NPR is damaged.
(...) This seems to be your opinion more than the management of Home Depot, which seem to view it as a mild annoyance at the worst. (...) You are comparing a prosecutable crime with a non-crime. They are free to toss her from the store if they find (...) (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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