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(...) Hey Richie, you failed to mention Oz! ;) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) (Warning: turn your sarcasm detector off now - it may overload) Eureka! Now I understand! Turkey not helping the US probably costs thousands of innocent civilian lives? Of course! Now (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well you could get a little comfort from thinking how accurate U.S. intelligence reports on WMD have been. ROSCO (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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some excerpts from. (URL) senior leadership decided last month to send irregular paramilitary units across their border with Iraq to harass American soldiers once Saddam Hussein's regime fell, according to U.S. intelligence reports. "This confirmed (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From: (URL) looming controversy: U.S. and allied use of depleted uranium in bunker-busting bombs and artillery rounds. Depleted uranium is a byproduct of the uranium that fuels nuclear reactors. It turns to fine dust when shells made from the hard, (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Glad you liked it. Josette actually found this one and we were dying laughing. I don't think this is a completely correct statement of official position, mind you, but it's pretty funny. Nor is it reflective of any particular individual (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) " Let us be clear. We are in favour of UN resolutions but against their enforcement; against the use of force but in favour of the threat of it; against fighting the war, but in favour of winning it. This is part of Canada's unique national (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thanks, Mr. Coyne for clearing it up! (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jason Gross writes: I did get a chuckle out of your (...) ROFLOL! I don't believe in any god or messiah, but that sentence was so greatly put that I'll identify myself to Jesus for the first time in man ueays by saying (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Haha! J'ai voté dans le hall minifig de gloire juste à la rancune lui! Faucon Noir! J'en ai environ 100 un. Yes, I know, it's fractured, but what do you expect for an on-line auto-translator? -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Vive le Quebec! Vive le Canada!!! Dave K -who didn't get much past gr. 9 French class... :( Je ne parle pas francais :( (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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See: (URL) am seriously suggesting that we send back the Statue of Liberty given to us by our fickle ally in 1886. Obviouly, we no longer have use for a french created icon representing our country...and especially the freedom we've so dearly paid (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See also: (URL) Arabia is America’s top customer. Since 1990, the U.S. government, through the Pentagon’s arms export program, has arranged for the delivery of more than $39.6 billion in foreign military sales to Saudi Arabia [later] The (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps once Iraq's oil has been securred, the house of Saudi will be sidelined? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) BBC Radio 4's "Today" pretty much sets the agenda here: (URL) ITN's C4 News is also proving its worth (URL)The real problem is how most americans just don't do ANY digging for the (...) Trust in the age of spin! (...) ...and if there are no (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Britain! (...) British! (...) Britain also expects progress in Israel / Palestine - the so-called "road map". (...) I'm having a "war movie week". I watched Full Metal Jacket last night, and I came to the same conclusion; just replace "gook" & (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good one, Lar -- now you're in step with the program. We should certainly be looking into any possible human rights violations on the part of any country with a lot of oil. Timing it closer to the events of 911 would have been better in my (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I've received this email today. It's from member 956 John Robert Patterson, who writes: [Title: lego site] "Why don't you take the French out until they are removed from the axis of evil, leave it in English only? John P " This is the ENTIRE email. (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This is why I love the Internet. Our fun little project has turned into a religious and ethical debate. As the co-author of the subject at hand, I feel obligated to weigh in here. I'll admit, Jesse, your initial response rubbed me the wrong way. I (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) US is not papering over that SA is run by a bunch of thugs. Whether more will be done about it remains to be seen. (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it more likely we would end up falling over ourselves to do back-door deals in order to avoid paying. ROSCO (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I read somewhere that it was only the (older) Tomahawk missiles that went astray, and when the problem was identified, the coalition immediately announced it's intention not to use them until it was resolved. The Cruise missiles and laser (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I, doubtless like many of you, have been watching the news, reading online sources, and watching CSPAN (which is the recorded govt. in action of the U.S. and often of England too). Well, I was watching "Poodle" Blair yesterday and I got the idea (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The linked site is worth a look: (URL) A (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) a bad job of flash (presumably) animation... I wouldn't count on it as an umbiased source of info though. (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Relate it to GDP. That way everyone gives as much as they can afford... sort of like income tax. Scott A (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The whole report appears to be a statement of the obvious from analysts who are allegedly “linked” with the Russian military: ==+== Strikingly, the Russian analysts, whose work appears on the iraqwar.ru Web site, believe that U.S. and Allied (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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More questions about the Russian role are raised in this UPI article: (URL) went to the iraqwar.ru site mentioned (URL) I did not see the information given but I wasn't looking very hard. Does anyone else? (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heck no, I'd stick it on ebay. ;) (...) On what charge? (...) Indeed, cluster bomblets have a 16% failure rate; I wonder who'll come and collect them? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) from enother message: (...) I always believed that the 'merican sterotype (arrogant, ignorant, self centric), that every foreigner (to US) is familiar enough, is just a comically exaggerated unreality. At least I know too many american friends (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On a not unrelated theme: (URL) A (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tom, I know yourself as one of the most reasonable guys here, much more than most of the other guys here including myself. But Iwhat you are doing right now is trying to rationalize the things in a wrong way, I believe. Just imagine: Some (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Very sad: French plea as cemetery defaced (URL) violation of a burial place - scandalous in itself - is an attack on the memory of the sacrifice made by the British and American soldiers who contributed to the liberation of our soil," said the local (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, why not let China [et al] make a copy of a dud? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My understanding was that it was claimed GPS "jammers" made no impact. In fact, [IRC] it was claimed a GPS weapon was used to destroy them ... I only wonder why they were destroyed if they had no impact? ;) The best estimate I've read is that (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't blame the *allies* either. UK armed forces have been openly criticising "heavy handed" practices used by the US ground troops. Have a gander at this: British military critical of US troops' heavy-handed style with civilians (URL) (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *IN RELATION* to what Dave said!!! "Recent evidence suggests that the Emperor was about to surrender." You keep taking it out of context and trying to assert your own argument in there. (...) "...about to surrender"??? Nope. (...) "...about to (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me again state your assertion: "we had no way to know what Japan intended beyond its action (which were that the war was going to continue to the absolute bitter end)." 1. We knew *at least* that Hirohito had proposed a peace deal (albeit (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was born in '67 so it was the '80's when I became a teenager. But I was set when some of my older cousins played 'Crime of the Century' when I was a kid. It was the first album I bought. My parents listened to John Denver (who I still like, (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Argh! Correct you are... I'm thinking too much in the past, where we discussed Marillion for a bit. Of course, PF is also one of my longtime favorites - Marillion, Led Zepp, PF, RUSH, Peter Gabriel - those are what I listen to most, off the top of (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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