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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Fredrik Glöckner writes:
> > "richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> writes:
> >
> > > So what have I missed? Are we not at war with Iraq? If we kill them
> > > we are "liberating" Iraq, or "engaging" the enemy. If they kill us
> > > it is "terrorism."
> >
> >
> > No way! Are you saying that the word "terrorism" is misused to
> > discredit the enemy? I am shocked!
> >
> >
> > Another interesting term is "precision bombing". The US government has
> > officially apologized to the Iranian government for US missiles hitting
> > Iranian soil. They were obviously intended for Iraqi targets.
> > Apparantly, some have hit Saudi Arabia as well. I think that to apply
> > the word "precision" to a weapon system makes little sense, when some
> > war heads don't even hit the correct country.
>
> Didn't some of those missiles (GPS guided) go awry while GPS jammers (sold
> and serviced by Russian companies, as it turns out... probably because they
> underbid the French) were being deployed? You can't fault the missiles
> directly for that.
>
> You certainly can fault firing them, though, if it was known GPS jammers
> were operational, I suppose. But forgive the military planners that assumed
> that a putative ally wouldn't allow such sales to an enemy... Silly them.
My understanding was that it was claimed GPS "jammers" made no impact. In fact,
[IRC] it was claimed a GPS weapon was used to destroy them ... I only wonder
why they were destroyed if they had no impact? ;)
The best estimate I've read is that the impact is very limited:
From CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/09/24/weapons.shepperd.cnna/index.html
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When you go in downtown Baghdad, in populated areas, and you want to hit a
military vehicle that is next to a hospital, you want it to be very, very
accurate. You want a 5-meter bomb. And if it is jammed, and goes to 15- or
20-meter, it could affect the accuracy. So Saddam Hussein has to think that by
jamming it, it could divert some of our weapons into his populated areas, if he
cares.
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So that's 10-15m [30-45 feet] off-target [1] - not a whole country!
Off course, Blix never had any of these problems. :-/
Scott A
[1] well within the blast radius as far as civilians are concerned
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